ugaarguy
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I went to the funshops in Boise yesterday and got a few new things. My Kel-Tec P3AT got a Hogue Handall Jr (I trimmed it to fit) that I was looking for. It also got a Comp-tac Centerline neck holster that I lucked into at a great price. I picked up the heaviset .38 S&W Special factory loaded hollow points I could find; standard pressure 140gr. Hornady XTPs; My M66 and M&P will share these for SD/HD. To go along with SD I picked up some Sabre brand OC/Pepper/UV Dye spray for a less lethal force escalation option. Finally, I wasn't looking for this either, but I did pick up a Streamlight "Night Com" flashlight. I've been drooling over the $170 SureFire Aviator, so when I saw the similarly featured Streamlight (Xenon Bulb, two hi intensity LEDs, one lo intensity "marking" LED) for $40 I bit. Here's what I think of all the products.
Hogue Handall Jr on KT P3AT: The grip sleeve was easily trimmed to fit the tiny Kel Tec and make room for the mag release (put on "upside down" to allow enough room for middle finger to fit between trigger guard and raised finger grip ridge). In shooting this evening it helped reduce felt recoil, made constant grip index easier, and felt better in my hand. The black grip sleeve on my P3ATs green frame with black slides and controls also looks 'tacticool' IMO
-Rounds fired were seven Speer Gold Dot 90gr JHPs, Speer factory load; recoil was moderate to average for such a small & light pistol. They were fired just after dusk with very low flash and minimal blast. This was good for confidence with this load.
Comp-Tac Centerline Neck Holster: Lightweight, with easily adjustable neck cord it makes a great concealment rig for a lightweight pistol like the P3AT. Draw was easily adjusted with the single hex head screw. Very high quality Kydex rig that I think is just the ticket for deep concealment.
Hornady 38 S&W Special 140gr XTPs: All six rounds shot to "Minute of Coke Can" from 10-15yds out of my 2&1/2" M66. Rounds were fired just after dusk, flash, blast, and recoil were minimal. These will be my go to low light and home defense round.
StreamLight NIGHT COM: This light is well built when examined and compared to my SureFire 6P. Batteries and Lanyard w/ring were included. The marking LED is just that - a very low output LED that basically just shows that something (you) is (are) there. The hi intensity LEDs are perfect for looking around without affecting eyes adjusted to night/low light. The Xenon bulb is claimed to be 72 lumens with 2.5 Hrs runtime. It looks to be two thirds the output of my 6P with 65 lumen bulb. Either SureFire is very conservative, or StreamLight is very liberal, when it comes to lumen ratings. I think much of this is due to the SureFire's more tightly focused beam. In a dark room bouncing the light off the ceiling for illumination the difference was much less than aiming the lights into the dark room from a lighted room, but the Sure Fire still held a slight edge. Regardless the Night Com's Xenon bulb is still very bright and useful. Adding in the versatility of the two seperate intensity LED units with the Xenon bulb at a $40 price tag and I really like this light. I wish it were made in the USA like my 6P is, but undoubtedly the fact that the light is made in China is why it's priced how it is. Tradeoffs.
The Sabre belt clip 22 gram CS/Peeper spray cannister is easy to carry in even a small pocket, and it's nice having a less/non lethal option with 8-10 ft range. Any meaningful testing is beyond my means, and I don't think the neighbors would be happy if I hopped the fence and sprayed Cody, their Akita mix, just to test my pepper spray. That's said tongue in cheek, I love dogs and hope I never have to hurt one. I must admit that Cody was part of the motivation to get the pepper spray - I'm new to the neighborhood and he doesn't know me so he acts tough, growls, and acts defensive when he sees me. I don't think he would hurt me unless I provoked him - He's acting more defensive than agressive. However, he reminded me that dogs are everywhere, they're animals so they're unpredictable, and its best to have the pepper spray option before you're forced to shoot any critter - two or four legged.
So there are my thoughts. New gear, other than the XTPs, pictured below.
Hogue Handall Jr on KT P3AT: The grip sleeve was easily trimmed to fit the tiny Kel Tec and make room for the mag release (put on "upside down" to allow enough room for middle finger to fit between trigger guard and raised finger grip ridge). In shooting this evening it helped reduce felt recoil, made constant grip index easier, and felt better in my hand. The black grip sleeve on my P3ATs green frame with black slides and controls also looks 'tacticool' IMO
-Rounds fired were seven Speer Gold Dot 90gr JHPs, Speer factory load; recoil was moderate to average for such a small & light pistol. They were fired just after dusk with very low flash and minimal blast. This was good for confidence with this load.
Comp-Tac Centerline Neck Holster: Lightweight, with easily adjustable neck cord it makes a great concealment rig for a lightweight pistol like the P3AT. Draw was easily adjusted with the single hex head screw. Very high quality Kydex rig that I think is just the ticket for deep concealment.
Hornady 38 S&W Special 140gr XTPs: All six rounds shot to "Minute of Coke Can" from 10-15yds out of my 2&1/2" M66. Rounds were fired just after dusk, flash, blast, and recoil were minimal. These will be my go to low light and home defense round.
StreamLight NIGHT COM: This light is well built when examined and compared to my SureFire 6P. Batteries and Lanyard w/ring were included. The marking LED is just that - a very low output LED that basically just shows that something (you) is (are) there. The hi intensity LEDs are perfect for looking around without affecting eyes adjusted to night/low light. The Xenon bulb is claimed to be 72 lumens with 2.5 Hrs runtime. It looks to be two thirds the output of my 6P with 65 lumen bulb. Either SureFire is very conservative, or StreamLight is very liberal, when it comes to lumen ratings. I think much of this is due to the SureFire's more tightly focused beam. In a dark room bouncing the light off the ceiling for illumination the difference was much less than aiming the lights into the dark room from a lighted room, but the Sure Fire still held a slight edge. Regardless the Night Com's Xenon bulb is still very bright and useful. Adding in the versatility of the two seperate intensity LED units with the Xenon bulb at a $40 price tag and I really like this light. I wish it were made in the USA like my 6P is, but undoubtedly the fact that the light is made in China is why it's priced how it is. Tradeoffs.
The Sabre belt clip 22 gram CS/Peeper spray cannister is easy to carry in even a small pocket, and it's nice having a less/non lethal option with 8-10 ft range. Any meaningful testing is beyond my means, and I don't think the neighbors would be happy if I hopped the fence and sprayed Cody, their Akita mix, just to test my pepper spray. That's said tongue in cheek, I love dogs and hope I never have to hurt one. I must admit that Cody was part of the motivation to get the pepper spray - I'm new to the neighborhood and he doesn't know me so he acts tough, growls, and acts defensive when he sees me. I don't think he would hurt me unless I provoked him - He's acting more defensive than agressive. However, he reminded me that dogs are everywhere, they're animals so they're unpredictable, and its best to have the pepper spray option before you're forced to shoot any critter - two or four legged.
So there are my thoughts. New gear, other than the XTPs, pictured below.
