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That new Glock .380 sure is sized like a small 9mm. Since Glock basically is showing their version of a Ruger LC380, perhaps they will introducing that same gun as a 9mm soon. Like SHOT Show soon.
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That new Glock .380 sure is sized like a small 9mm. Since Glock basically is showing their version of a Ruger LC380, perhaps they will introducing that same gun as a 9mm soon. Like SHOT Show soon.
Peter M. Eick
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Single stack, locked breech, 380?
I am in. Why not? It meets all my requirements for a 380 carry gun.
I am in. Why not? It meets all my requirements for a 380 carry gun.
F-111 John
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Mas Ayoob shows us the Glock 41 and Glock 42:
Glock 41: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5_Sd5gcq7Q
Glock 42: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2vuOlhkMCw
Glock 41: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5_Sd5gcq7Q
Glock 42: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2vuOlhkMCw
Vodoun da Vinci
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Wow...Mr. Ayood explains the whole thing *exactly* like I wanted to hear it said. It's simple - it's about recoil and control. A 9mm the same size would kick too hard to appeal to the very folks who are wanting a slim Glock like this.
This gun is perfect for my Wife or smaller/recoil sensitive shooters who simply cannot/will not manage something with more recoil and the lack of controllable follow up accuracy that come with a tiny gun shooting a more potent round.
Put me down for two of them.
VooDoo
This gun is perfect for my Wife or smaller/recoil sensitive shooters who simply cannot/will not manage something with more recoil and the lack of controllable follow up accuracy that come with a tiny gun shooting a more potent round.
Put me down for two of them.
VooDoo
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EXACTLY my thoughts when I saw the measurements. Granted, on paper it lost on size to all those others - but I've fired the PF9, and it's abusive to shoot as a 9. The LCP (NOT LC380) has a reputation to be very hard to shoot accurately BECAUSE it's so retardedly tiny and light.
Glock is going in a very WISE direction here - locked breech to make it "+P" capable (or strong SD rounds), also easier to rack. SLIGHTLY larger size to make it easy to hold and point, and SLIGHTLY heavier so it can resist the kick of .380 better than the competition, ALL while still being ULTRA slim, single-stack, and SMALL.
Plus since they don't have a .380 on the market yet, this is a good entrance for one.
EXACTLY my thoughts when I saw the measurements. Granted, on paper it lost on size to all those others - but I've fired the PF9, and it's abusive to shoot as a 9. The LCP (NOT LC380) has a reputation to be very hard to shoot accurately BECAUSE it's so retardedly tiny and light.
Glock is going in a very WISE direction here - locked breech to make it "+P" capable (or strong SD rounds), also easier to rack. SLIGHTLY larger size to make it easy to hold and point, and SLIGHTLY heavier so it can resist the kick of .380 better than the competition, ALL while still being ULTRA slim, single-stack, and SMALL.
Plus since they don't have a .380 on the market yet, this is a good entrance for one.
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I'm still waiting for a Glock 19 in 22lr that is produced by Glock.
WinThePennant
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The G42 is going to be a huge hit.
People who don't understand the "WHY" of the G42 just aren't looking at it objectively. Yes, Glock will probably come up with a similarly sized 9mm. But, there are a lot of people who need a controllable, lightweight, very accurate, very reliable .380.
This one will be a winner. This will be the PERFECT Glock, no -- the PERFECT pistol, for a lot of women.
Don't let anyone talk down the .380 cartridge -- It will get the job done. This G42 will have all the ergos that you expect with a Glock.
Seriously, name one pistol that you'd recommend to a recoil sensitive shooter other than this one? This will be in EVERY conversation when it comes to recommending a pistol to a recoil sensitive shooter. Shield? Yes. Springfield XDS? Yes. But, this one will be softer recoiling than either of those, and in a cartridge that is adequate. Not the best cartridge, but one that is adequate.
People who don't understand the "WHY" of the G42 just aren't looking at it objectively. Yes, Glock will probably come up with a similarly sized 9mm. But, there are a lot of people who need a controllable, lightweight, very accurate, very reliable .380.
This one will be a winner. This will be the PERFECT Glock, no -- the PERFECT pistol, for a lot of women.
Don't let anyone talk down the .380 cartridge -- It will get the job done. This G42 will have all the ergos that you expect with a Glock.
Seriously, name one pistol that you'd recommend to a recoil sensitive shooter other than this one? This will be in EVERY conversation when it comes to recommending a pistol to a recoil sensitive shooter. Shield? Yes. Springfield XDS? Yes. But, this one will be softer recoiling than either of those, and in a cartridge that is adequate. Not the best cartridge, but one that is adequate.
Not just for women, for anyone who has hand strength/recoil sensitivity issues. That could be a huge demographic as the baby boomers get into retirement and age-related hand strength/sensitivity issues begin to be an issue.
I already know of at least one retirement-aged man who is eyeing the Glock 42 and the Ruger LC380 (a similarly sized .380 pistol) as possible self-defense guns.
Vodoun da Vinci
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Exactly. My Wife and I shot virtually (actually...I think it was every single one) every 9mm and .380 offering over the Summer and all of the .380's we shot, with the exception of some older all metal pistols that were marginal for carry/concealment by a small female, were snappy enough that she was better off with the G26 and Beretta Px4 SC that we ended up keeping.
Even the really highly touted .380's like the Sig P238 and especially the Ruger LCP kick as bad as a 9mm...because they are so small and light.
I can't wait to shoot one of these. And with Glocks lower bore axis, coupled with the other features, what recoil is left will be a push (like my G26...it recoils but doesn't flip/snap) and not flipping the pistol up in a way that makes target reacquisition difficult.
I hand load and just looked at some loads for .380 ACP. If the Glock does well with dealing with the recoil as I think it will in this configuration I can bump up a .380 until it is marginally less effective than a 9mm. We have a "bucket list" of pistols left to buy before we have all the guns we targeted for keepers. The G42 was not on the list but I have a feeling if we shoot one it will go to the top of the bucket list immediately and I/we were *not* in the market for a .380 at all.
VooDoo
Even the really highly touted .380's like the Sig P238 and especially the Ruger LCP kick as bad as a 9mm...because they are so small and light.
I can't wait to shoot one of these. And with Glocks lower bore axis, coupled with the other features, what recoil is left will be a push (like my G26...it recoils but doesn't flip/snap) and not flipping the pistol up in a way that makes target reacquisition difficult.
I hand load and just looked at some loads for .380 ACP. If the Glock does well with dealing with the recoil as I think it will in this configuration I can bump up a .380 until it is marginally less effective than a 9mm. We have a "bucket list" of pistols left to buy before we have all the guns we targeted for keepers. The G42 was not on the list but I have a feeling if we shoot one it will go to the top of the bucket list immediately and I/we were *not* in the market for a .380 at all.
VooDoo
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Found this review on the GunandAmmo site...
http://www.gunsandammo.com/2014/01/04/revealed-glock-41-42-pistols/
http://www.gunsandammo.com/2014/01/04/revealed-glock-41-42-pistols/
My aging, aching, right wrist may well compel me to try a G42. Yes, 9mm is "better," and for that reason, I have been recently wearing a G17 concealed on my left side, and am function-testing a G19, to be a new member of the team. Having carried "primary" at 0300 for so many years, however, I prefer to keep wearing a weapon on my right hip, too, in case I reflexively reach there, in an emergency, and the more gentler-recoiling, the better. (I believe in training with one's carry guns, shooting with each hand!)
My PPK/S is a solution, for now, but with the barrel fixed to the frame, will recoil more than a locked-breech design, all else being equal. (The classic Walther, being all-steel, means it has some weight to dampen recoil.) The G42 may well be a logical next step.
FWIW, I have been routinely carrying two guns for well over a decade, and before that, off-and-on since 1984. I wear a badge at work, and figure my off-the-clock threat profile merits packing a bit heavy, 24/7.
My PPK/S is a solution, for now, but with the barrel fixed to the frame, will recoil more than a locked-breech design, all else being equal. (The classic Walther, being all-steel, means it has some weight to dampen recoil.) The G42 may well be a logical next step.
FWIW, I have been routinely carrying two guns for well over a decade, and before that, off-and-on since 1984. I wear a badge at work, and figure my off-the-clock threat profile merits packing a bit heavy, 24/7.
Peter M. Eick
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Locked breech? According to Mas (see video above) it is.
I am in!
Those that are promoting a 9mm are missing the demographic I believe this gun is aimed for. I will buy one as soon as I see it. A 42 with Night Sights sounds like a great training and carry gun for the wife and family.
Besides, I have thousands of 380's to burn in it.
I am in!
Those that are promoting a 9mm are missing the demographic I believe this gun is aimed for. I will buy one as soon as I see it. A 42 with Night Sights sounds like a great training and carry gun for the wife and family.
Besides, I have thousands of 380's to burn in it.
stogiegila
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Sounds right up my alley. My small arthritic hands with short stubby fingers are having a very difficult time with .45acp now.
While I can still handle the small 9mm (G26 and Kahr CM9) its only a matter of time until I will be down to the G42. I like the P238 but don't care for a safety on a carry gun, so as soon as the G42 comes out I will sell off the P238
While I can still handle the small 9mm (G26 and Kahr CM9) its only a matter of time until I will be down to the G42. I like the P238 but don't care for a safety on a carry gun, so as soon as the G42 comes out I will sell off the P238
The_Armed_Therapist
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Similar to how when I tell people I am carrying a "Glock 22." Even seasoned gun enthusiasts are like, "Glock makes a 22?!" LOL...
F-111 John
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So then Glock will also skip "45"?
Peter M. Eick
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Probably they will. It makes a lot of sense.
Numbers have a lot of meaning and can be confused by simple mis-understandings. Now if they brought out Glock 45 in 45ACP that would make sense. Same thing on Glock 40 if they had brought it out in 40 Short and Weak.
Many from my generation will always think of a Glock 42 is the "answer to the ultimate question of Life, the Universe and Everything".
Numbers have a lot of meaning and can be confused by simple mis-understandings. Now if they brought out Glock 45 in 45ACP that would make sense. Same thing on Glock 40 if they had brought it out in 40 Short and Weak.
Many from my generation will always think of a Glock 42 is the "answer to the ultimate question of Life, the Universe and Everything".
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