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Really? Why?
I was reading something the other day which said .32 Auto ranked behind .25 Auto and .22 LR in defensive carry popularity . Both of which I consider barely even passable as SD rounds.
herrwalther
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Probably won't be anything with a huge need for. Remember last year when they made a huge deal out of what became the G30S? Everyone thought it would be a single stack 9 or something that the market is hot for right now. Nope, it was a marginal improvement over the G30. I am not going to hold my breath. Glock has only one thing that they do well and that is trying to get everyone to shoot the same way.
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I shoot a lot of .32 and hang with folks who shoot/reload a lot of .32....I favor it over the .380 which, for me, is like shooting a slightly downloaded 9mm. Most of the .380's I like give me nothing my 9mm's don't already have and do better.
A pocket sized higher cap/polymer .32 as a choice rather than the Kel Tec (which is kind of a finicky toy to me - no slight intended, it's just not for me) would be a purchase. The argument that the .32 is sub marginal as a defense caliber has been hashed and rehashed to the point I just shake my head and walk away. I hand load flat nosed hardcast lead in my .32's to almost 200 FPE and they allow me to put 4, 75 gr rounds with 15"+ of penetration on target accurately in less than 1 second in point shooting out of my Colt 1903's.
I'm in a minority believing that a .32 ACP is still a great BUG or pocket pistol. I'd buy a Glock, Beretta, or similar polymer framed .32 with great relish. I'm willing to bet there's a lot of us fools out there but that's just an opinion. I sincerely doubt anyone except Beretta intends to market such an option. I love my Glock 26 - can't wait to see aht they do with the G42.
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A pocket sized higher cap/polymer .32 as a choice rather than the Kel Tec (which is kind of a finicky toy to me - no slight intended, it's just not for me) would be a purchase. The argument that the .32 is sub marginal as a defense caliber has been hashed and rehashed to the point I just shake my head and walk away. I hand load flat nosed hardcast lead in my .32's to almost 200 FPE and they allow me to put 4, 75 gr rounds with 15"+ of penetration on target accurately in less than 1 second in point shooting out of my Colt 1903's.
I'm in a minority believing that a .32 ACP is still a great BUG or pocket pistol. I'd buy a Glock, Beretta, or similar polymer framed .32 with great relish. I'm willing to bet there's a lot of us fools out there but that's just an opinion. I sincerely doubt anyone except Beretta intends to market such an option. I love my Glock 26 - can't wait to see aht they do with the G42.
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My problem with the 380 AUTO is that most of the gel tests I've seen show the hollow point top out at 10" penetration and I've seen the FMJ, even truncated flat nosed penetrating 17-18 inches and even zipping out the back of 19" blocks.
There doesn't seem to be a way to get the round to penetrate between 12 to 15 inches.
An alternative to the P-32 would be great, but I doubt it is going to happen.
Glock is about the least responsive gun company out there. Coming to the market with a lightweight compact 380 ACP six years after Ruger introduced their very successful LCP, is pretty lethargic.
There doesn't seem to be a way to get the round to penetrate between 12 to 15 inches.
An alternative to the P-32 would be great, but I doubt it is going to happen.
Glock is about the least responsive gun company out there. Coming to the market with a lightweight compact 380 ACP six years after Ruger introduced their very successful LCP, is pretty lethargic.
Wonder how many businesses some of you naysayers have ever run successfully??? 
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Dang,I just bought a XDM 5.25 in .45 ACP.On Sunday @ the Chantilly gun show.LOL
LeonCarr
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Speaking of marketing advice, everybody I talk to wants a Glock full size single stack (10+1) .45.
When I attended Glock Armorer School last year the first question asked by a student was "When is Glock coming out with a full size single stack .45?".
Every Glockoholic I know including myself wants one of these. Why are they making a long slide double stack .45, which is a gun which is already too big for most hands, and making it BIGGER?
Just my Thanksgiving .02,
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When I attended Glock Armorer School last year the first question asked by a student was "When is Glock coming out with a full size single stack .45?".
Every Glockoholic I know including myself wants one of these. Why are they making a long slide double stack .45, which is a gun which is already too big for most hands, and making it BIGGER?
Just my Thanksgiving .02,
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Not some reason. They don't make enough import points on the BATFE scale. .380 doesn't get as many points as 9mm does, and the 26 barely qualifies with the minimum 75 points. And that's with the adjustable plastic target sights Glock removes when they get here.
Glock is arguably one of the most successful firearms manufacturers in history. They make 1 style of gun (with minor variations of same) and make it very well. Obviously they know what they're are doing. Like someone above mentioned, how many of the people on this forum complaining that they don't listen to customers are successful business owners?
You don't have to be a whale to write Moby Dick.
You don't have to be a successful business owner or a genius to see that Glock is late to the party when it comes to slim 9mm and 380 guns.
How many people have said the Walther PPS is the gun Glock should have made - but didn't ?
The Ruger LCP, Springfield Armory XD-S, S&W Shield, Walther PPS and many other guns have made their manufacturers millions.
Not every gun company has the resources to capitalize on that opportunity but certainly Glock should have.
A company that passes up millions in revenue - I don't know about the marketing plan, but some plan somewhere is screwed up.
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In doing some sleuthing around the web, I have read a couple "leaks" that stated the 42 was a single stack .380, and only one that claimed it was a double stack... Who knows, but I would much rather have a micro .380 from Glock than a .380 in the same size range as my shield.
Also, I didn't even realize that there was a full outline of the pistol (or at least a pistol) behind the lighter in the ad until someone in another forum lightened the whole ad up to make the outline pop more..... I wonder if we are to assume that the G42 outline and Zippo are to scale?
Also, I didn't even realize that there was a full outline of the pistol (or at least a pistol) behind the lighter in the ad until someone in another forum lightened the whole ad up to make the outline pop more..... I wonder if we are to assume that the G42 outline and Zippo are to scale?
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I'm sure that glock has an army of marketers and researchers determining what they should spend their time and money on. As mentioned before, they can't keep up with demand on current guns, much less tap into the "double stack 32" millions that are out there. As far as being a whale to write moby dick, that's an asinine comment. Again, going back to my opening statement. Glock is arguably the most successful gun company of the last 50 yrs. Maybe, just MAYBE, they know what they're doing.
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Just because a company is big and successful doesn't necessarily mean they're receptive to new or innovative ideas. Sometimes they become self-absorbed and self-insulated to the point that they believe only their own in-house designs and marketing strategy should be considered. I can remember how slow and unresponsive the Big Three automakers were to designing and building smaller, more fuel efficient cars. When the fuel crisis hit during the 1970s people started looking for alternatives and found them in vehicles made by Toyota, Honda, and Nissan. Not knocking Glock's current offerings, or their reputation for reliability and quality, but just saying that some day they may see their market share diminish as the competition design and build products that consumers are specifically looking for.
LiveLife
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I have no interest in a 380 of any type, perhaps a 45 if it did something that the other 6 I have don't do. Obviously this is for people who don't already have a half dozen Glocks or other Tupperware pistols and they are looking to the future of the carry and general shooting enigma that is sweeping the Country.
New shooters want a 380, and every guy who shoots for a year or two eventually wants a 45, "as we have seen with the 1911 craze. I am surprised they haven't made a 1911 at this point, "although it is the complete opposite of what they do, it would sell anyway.
And zippo's don't work every time.
New shooters want a 380, and every guy who shoots for a year or two eventually wants a 45, "as we have seen with the 1911 craze. I am surprised they haven't made a 1911 at this point, "although it is the complete opposite of what they do, it would sell anyway.
And zippo's don't work every time.
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I would like a G36 sized firearm in 10mm.
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I agree, I had a 1911 and sold it off, that was also my last .45.
I don't suppose anyone has a standard zippo handy that they could dimension? The case width and the height from the case bottom to the top of the chrome perforated flange might be useful.
I don't suppose anyone has a standard zippo handy that they could dimension? The case width and the height from the case bottom to the top of the chrome perforated flange might be useful.
LiveLife
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The zippo lighter is about 1.5" x 2.2" so when I scaled the picture I get about 4.75" for the length of slide/barrel and 3.25" height.Gtscotty said:
That's smaller than my Taurus 738 TCP which has 5.2" slide length and 3.7" height.
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NO! What made Glock popular was they made pistols available to law enforcement cheaper than the competition. They don't make a better gun than SIG or HK, they just make jack of all trades guns cheaper. If Hi-Points were as reliable as Glock, departments everywhere would ditch Glock over Hi point to save money. Glock is losing its market share on law enforcement with more departments going to S&W and SIG. A major metropolitan police department right next to me cancelled their contract for 2000+ Glocks for their officers in lieu of the M&P and only allow their officers to carry Glock if they buy it themselves. Glock hasn't had a major innovation since the G17 patent in the 1970s with their 3 passive safeties. Now most modern handguns have the Glock "innovative" safeties and then some. Sure none of us are business owners, but if Glock ignores what customers want, they won't be around.
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I wouldn't read too much into the number 42. Doesn't Glock always apply the number based on the number of patents attributed to Glock? For example, the Glock 17 was named such because it was Glock's 17th patent.
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