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I picked up a new Glock 19 on Saturday with Trijicon night sights (dealer installed). Took it to the range on Sunday and was NOT happy with the results. I didn't group well (they were all over), and all of my shots were low (at 25ft).

I thought I was just having a bad day, but took out my Kahr PM9 and had 1 to 2 inch groups in the 10 ring.

It's my first Glock...any ideas on what I was doing wrong?

DW
 
The Glock trigger is much different then other triggers out there. It may be you're jerking the trigger which contributes to the rounds being all over. You may also have an incorrect sight picture which would lead to shooting low. I know with Meprolights you need to ignore the outline of the sights and line the dots up. The front looks low but it is correct. Maybe Trijicons you need to line up the sight outlines and from that figure out where the front dot needs to be.

Just keep on the trigger, it takes some time if you didn't start out on Glocks.
 
Two words for you, FOLLOW THROUGH.

You must stay steady until the shot has left, if you don't you will spray them terribly with any DAO types with significant amounts of overtravel. Watch that front sight until the bullet hole appears in the target exactly where you are looking. You will be shocked how fast you can accurately place shots when you do.
 
There is a definite learning curve w/ Glocks. Patience & practice are what you need to get it right...the trigger is that diff't!
Congrats on your new gun! ;)
 
Shooting low and left for a new Glock shooter...............

is quite common. Cannot tell you how many shooters I have heard make the same complaint. The shape of a Glock is somewhat different from most other guns and, of course, the trigger is a new experience all by itself. I take as high a grip as I can manage and follow through on the shot. Do some experimentation and it won't take long for you to be more satisfied with the results. Good shooting;)
 
Try some dry-fire practice before your next range trip; factory Glock triggers "stack up" just before they break, and most people used to single-action autos end up "yanking" the trigger just when they feel it start to tense up (pulling their shots low). If you can pull the trigger all the way through the cycle while maintaining your sight picture (front blade centered in the notch, at the same height as the rear sight, and your Point Of Aim resting on the front blade), then you'll be ready for accuracy.
 
You might mix in a dummy round or two and check to see if you're fliching and not getting a clean trigger break and follow through. As others have stated the Glocks trigger takes some getting used to. In your dry fire practice you might want to concentrate on letting the trigger only travel far enough forward to reset instead of letting it travel all the way forward before begining your trigger squeeze for the next shot. The upside to this is that you only have to master 1 trigger pull as compared to some other auto loaders which require you to master 2.

Stay Safe, Pat S
 
Try taking up the slack then squeezing through the rest of the trigger pull. For subsequent shots, fire from the trigger reset position. (When you fire the first shot, keep your trigger finger all the way back and slowly release it until you feel the "click" of the reset. Then squeeze the trigger for the second shot. If you'll learn to shoot your Glock like that, you'll find the trigger won't be so long and ornery.

I use Trijicons and Meprolights on my Glocks. Forget about the advice to "line the dots up". Learn to acquire a proper sight picture by holding the front sight flush with the top of the rear sight. Watch where your shots are going and figure out the proper sight picture for the distance at which you're shooting. The G21 is one of the most accurate Glocks made, and one of the easiest-shooting .45's you'll ever shoot.
 
You might try less pressure on the grip with your little finger. Also try using different parts of your trigger finger and see if one position causes virutally no movement of the front sight in relation to the rear sight, when you dry fire.

I find if I slow down and make a deliberate movement of my tirgger finger, much like pulling a the trigger of a DA revolver, I get consistantly better results (YMMV).

At the range it sometimes takes time to settle down and start shooting well. If you are having trouble at the range, stop. Unload the pistol and do a little dry firing at the target. Then go back to live fire.

If you feel like you aren't getting better, put the pistol down and walk around a little. Don't just blast away. Make each shot count even if you don't shoot many rounds. As you get better you can build up speed.

If you have a rental range rent a G26 or G27, without a magazine extension. They can help you with your grip and trigger squeeze. They can make you be a better shot with your G19.

Good luck,
Rich
 
Had the same problem when I got my G19. It wasnt the gun. I used a rest that the range had and believe it or not all 15 shots were in a 1.5" group at 15 yds. So it wasnt the gun.

Practiced getting used to the trigger and low and behold my groups shrunk in a hurry.

This pic was from my midtour. After not shooting for 6 months I wasnt too bummed out.
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I am planning to go back to the range some night this week. I have been dry firing a lot, so I will see if I do better this time. Thanks for all of the feedback.

DW
 
It will take some time to get use to the Glock trigger. I practiced with my Glock 19 and Glock 22, once a week for a month and have no problem keeping tight groups now. One thing that has helped me with the Glock, is not completely releasing the trigger. Once you have fired the first shot, let up on the trigger just enough the feel it click once...... This will make the next trigger pull shorter and a little smoother. Good luck, and just give it a chance. You'll grow to love your G19.
 
My condolences on your glock purchase. You will either love it or hate it or be completely non plused at your glock.

definitely try shooting from a rest and work on the reset, just release the trigger just enough to get reset and then the pull is simpler.
 
When I bought my G17L three years ago, my first shots were all over a man-sized target at 27yds, now I can keep as many shots as I like inside a 8" circle.

It just takes practice...

...and a few hours of dry-firing.
 
I went back to the range today and had great results. At 8-10yds I had no problem getting 1-2 inch groups and I was in the 10-ring most of the day. The dry firing I did this week really helped.

Thanks for all the input, I am now a satisfied Glock owner.

DW
 
DW..

About 2 years ago, a thread was started on glocktalk by Neo Alred called 'Breaking a Habit' which blossomed into one of those "super threads" that just never seem to die.. It begins as glock-specific, but has great advice for ALL shooters!! It will be quite a read (7 pages by now) but it really is worth it..

find it here: http://glocktalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=5876

enjoy!!! :D

robear..
 
The Glock trigger is weird but at least it's the SAME weird for every shot, which gives it an advantage over my otherwise preferred SIG's.
It really can be learned fairly quickly if you remember to make firing it one continual flow of increasing pressure on the trigger.
Don't start and stop when applying pressure to the trigger.
It's pretty much the same as firing a double action revolver but much shorter and lighter.
 
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