New LGS, several nice guns, which would you get?

[silicosys4]

And here is the Remington. I will be posting an dedicated thread about this gun requesting opinions. I know just enough about these to get myself into trouble. I hope thats not the case here.

 

[Appalachiannative]

So a new lgs just opened up and I had the time to take a look.

There are a few deals I thought I'd the forum about.
I've already got a trade offer of $750 for a sig 1911 Nitron railed.
I'm only into it for $650 and don't like very much So that's a win, and there are a few guns I would MUCH rather have. I have cash to throw on top if need be but sadly can't get them sll.

I have tentatively reached an agreement for trading the sig +$100 for an early 60's commercial colt 1911 with replacement grips and trigger. It would be 99%+ EXCEPT for a dime size blotch of completely missing bluing on the slide and frame. Bare shiny silver metal. No pitting or rust though. So what, about 95% finish remaining.

But I have other options.
A 1959 winchester m70 in 30-06, solid 90% finish, used but not abused, good wood still, good bore, , $900

A 1961 winchester 94, 30-30, 85%, thinning finish but good bore, honest gun, $800

A 98% python, 4", blued. Late 60's with service stocks in box, $3k. Up there but I'd make it happen if it were a solid investment. Very nice finish, the grips look pristine, looks like it might be unshot but i'd have to look closer.

An early winchester 52 with the heavy barrel, target peep sights, and banded stock, 90%, $800 This one is nice, very heavy barrel, very substantial and precise rear peep sight apparatus with hooded front, stock in nice shape, bluing but still almost all there

Post 64, 1968 Buffalo Bill commemorative winchester '94. Not really my thing, ugly painted finish, cartoonish engraving, but it's in my favorite configuration for the 94, a 26" octagon rifle pattern. 95%, $550.

U.S. property Remington 1911, 98% in issue box, parkerized, $1950. This one is interesting. Looks unissued and uncarried, i'm guessing its numbers matching. I have no idea how old or if its wartime, so this one might need further inspection.

S&W 29-4, 3" barrel, hogue grips, unfluted cylinder, 95%, no box, $1500. Lew Horton maybe?

Those are some of the things I saw that I wanted more than the sig.
What would you do and why?

I like the sig but if you want and can afford the python then go for it. But I'm just partial to wheel guns

 

[Howland937]

. The chambers on those Sigs are just too short and tight for cast lead and thats 99% of what I shoot

Mine don't get a steady diet but I loaded a couple hundred 230gr RN cast a buddy made for me. Hadn't really noticed problems with them so far.

 

[silicosys4]

Get the python! Those are hard to find at a decent price! Of course I'm biased towards wheel guns

I was thinking about it but he just wouldn't move down into a range I was comfortable paying. I wouldn't pay more than $2400 and he wouldn't sell for less than $2800. I don't think Pythons are going to appreciate much more in value now that the recession has hit, Walking Dead is over, and there is a new Python available. I want an original Python, but I don't want a 99%+ original Python safe queen that I bought at the high water mark of pricing so I can never shoot or handle if I want it to keep its value.
It is sweet though.

 

[welldoya]

The Remington and the Buffalo Bill Winchester would be my choices. Win 94s have skyrocketed. I haven’t seen any lately for $550.
The .45 could be a bargain but I don’t know enough about them to know if it is or isn’t.
I learned my lesson on one I bought at an estate auction 6 years ago. I thought I really had something. Turns out it was a Frankengun.
So many of them were re-worked and parts came from all over, you need to know what you are doing.

 

[Demi-human]

I know just enough about these to get myself into trouble. I hope thats not the case here.

Me too. And that is in eerily good shape for less than $2k.

 

[Howland937]

Me too. And that is in eerily good shape for less than $2k.

If condition is a worry... shoot the snot out of it, drag it over some beaches and through some jungles. Take it around the world twice and through a war or two. Wear some of that niceness off it.

 

[Demi-human]

If condition is a worry... shoot the snot out of it, drag it over some beaches and through some jungles. Take it around the world twice and through a war or two. Wear some of that niceness off it.

I simply haven’t the time!

Just saying that a matching RemRand that nice should be more than that. Caveat emptor, always.
I would even think about picking it up, and I rarely do old things!

 

[Reloadron]

Matters of personal choice I guess. I have a 1972 Colt Python 4" so I'm good with that. I do have a love of 1911 guns and recently came into a sweet deal on a Remington Rand WWII take home in as good as I have ever seen condition including a 1942 original GI holster. If another came along would I jump at it? Absolutely merely because 1911 guns trip my trigger. Especially the WWII take home guns.





What looks like smudges is just oil.

Anyway what trips my trigger isn't important but what trips yours is.

Ron

 

[herrwalther]

The Winchester 70. Investment wise, those are just going up. Base models are going over 1K on Gunbroker. And it is one of the best actions ever developed.

Personally a Pre-64 Model 70 is a grail gun of mine. But a M1917 is almost the exact same action for a cheaper price, so that is what I got recently.

 

[Mark_Mark]

1968 Winchester 94! probably was hardly shot because it WAS collectable, but I bet it’s s FINE shooter. Who cares about the 60’s gun bling

 

[Old Dog]

I was thinking about it but he just wouldn't move down into a range I was comfortable paying. I wouldn't pay more than $2400 and he wouldn't sell for less than $2800. I don't think Pythons are going to appreciate much more in value now that the recession has hit, Walking Dead is over, and there is a new Python available. I want an original Python, but I don't want a 99%+ original Python safe queen that I bought at the high water mark of pricing so I can never shoot or handle if I want it to keep its value.

Good call there.

I found a 4" Python in better condition for $2300 a few months back -- I was so tempted, but was in the process of buying a bigger ticket gun, and of course, when I went back, it'd sold.

I think your threshhold for a blued Python is appropriate.

And in my opinion, scoring the RR 1911 was a good choice.

 

[silicosys4]

The final cash deal was the DCM remington 1911A1 plus a 1962 Winchester 94 for $2500 OTD, and the trade deal was the sig nitron railed 1911 + $100 for the commercial Colt.

So here is that winchester, I know this one isn't particularly special or high condition but I have been wanting a pre-64 Winchester 94 for a long time, and the last one I saw for under $1k was two years ago and was completely thrashed, no finish, sanded wood, extra holes, etc... This one has some finish issues but the bore is really nice and its mechanically excellent, very little wear internally.

 

[Demi-human]

Some guys have all the luck!
Nice negotiating, @silicosys4.
I guess you have your spring all laid out now!

 

[Old Dog]

@silicosys4
Who among us can resist the siren call of a classic lever-action Winchester?

P.S. Maybe I can get you to accompany me into my LGS the next time he's got something I want-- you seem to be able to drive a better bargain than I've been able to lately.

 

[Reloadron]

@silicosys4
Who among us can resist the siren call of a classic lever-action Winchester?

P.S. Maybe I can get you to accompany me into my LGS the next time he's got something I want-- you seem to be able to drive a better bargain than I've been able to lately.

Just something about the lure of a fine lever action rifle. Maybe it was all those cowboy movies I watched as a kid, maybe Chuck Connors as The Rifleman. I had to resist just to opt for the GI Remington Rand 1911A1.

Ron

 

[silicosys4]

@silicosys4
Who among us can resist the siren call of a classic lever-action Winchester?

P.S. Maybe I can get you to accompany me into my LGS the next time he's got something I want-- you seem to be able to drive a better bargain than I've been able to lately.

I love negotiating. I'll bet I could write a book about firearm negotiations. I was in there flashing cash, working with a pen and paper, adding prices, asking for best prices on individual items then bundling them for even bigger price drops, etc...

 

[Reloadron]

I love negotiating. I'll bet I could write a book about firearm negotiations. I was in there flashing cash, working with a pen and paper, adding prices, asking for best prices on individual items then bundling them for even bigger price drops, etc...

My negotiations are real simple:
Ron to Jimmy: Jimmy my best and final out the door.
Really, Jimmy knows when I ask I am serious. What the gun may be tagged at is here nor there. Jimmy knows if I like the gun and the price it will leave with me.

Ron

 

[Master Blaster]

The commercial Colt was a great deal. As far as the WWII Remington Rand it may have been a CMP surplus gun from the 50s or 1960s that sat in somebody's safe all that time.