someguy2800
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My dream would be an 1894 in 10mm/40s&w. In order to shoot both it would need to be controlled round feed though so that’s wishful thinking. I’m actually pretty excited to get my hands on a Bond Arms lever action AR
New Marlin Dark Series in cal 45-70.
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My dream would be an 1894 in 10mm/40s&w. In order to shoot both it would need to be controlled round feed though so that’s wishful thinking. I’m actually pretty excited to get my hands on a Bond Arms lever action AR
troy fairweather
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I was thinking the same thing or even just do storage or something.
Agreed, and probably what they are intended for. Bet theres an accessory already in the works lol.
You know if you made the veneers using push clips, you could probably use them as storage covers....
ECVMatt
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I am a traditional lever action guy for the most part and have had a Guide Gun for over 20 years or so, but I kind of like this one. I think Ruger/Marlin has done a good job of blending the traditional lines of a lever gun with a modern twist. If it were an 1894, I would be really interested.
tark
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Excuse me while I 
That thing looks like... never mind... the mods would just delete the post and give me a gig...
That thing looks like... never mind... the mods would just delete the post and give me a gig...
Mark_Mark
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like putting a rail & laser light on your avatar gun!Excuse me while I
Pat Riot
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I do appreciate the fact that manufacturers are making guns that may appeal to younger shooters.
Several times in the past couple of years I have heard comments like:
“I didn’t know they made cool lever action rifles like this” OR
“Hey, that’s different. What is that?”
Salesman “That’s a Henry X model.”
“Nice! Can I see it?
The young man bought it.
I used to shoot Cowboy Action because I love the guns of the Old West. I also love the newer guns like my Ruger SFAR and Ruger PC Carbine, S&W 327 NG and my Glocks.
I hope Marlin is making the Dark 1894 in .45 Colt whenever I have the money set aside for a new lever gun in .45 Colt. If not, I will be buying a Henry X model.
Say it with me friends:
Black Guns Matter!
Several times in the past couple of years I have heard comments like:
“I didn’t know they made cool lever action rifles like this” OR
“Hey, that’s different. What is that?”
Salesman “That’s a Henry X model.”
“Nice! Can I see it?
The young man bought it.
I used to shoot Cowboy Action because I love the guns of the Old West. I also love the newer guns like my Ruger SFAR and Ruger PC Carbine, S&W 327 NG and my Glocks.
I hope Marlin is making the Dark 1894 in .45 Colt whenever I have the money set aside for a new lever gun in .45 Colt. If not, I will be buying a Henry X model.
Say it with me friends:
Black Guns Matter!
mcb
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The text you quoted from me came from that thread nearly verbatim. The firearms community, in very large part, are completely resistant to change and advancement. We are not going to get the overnight jump from our current cartridges and gun powder to plasma rifles and partial projection cannons. The more realistic expectation is a very slow grind of very small incrementally changes. If we throw fits over cosmetic changes and out our right attack things like electrically primed cartridges we will stay stuck where we have been for the past nearly hundreds years.
I like it. It's funky and yet functional and probably tougher to hard use and more versatile than the blued and walnut version.
You don't have to hate this to still appreciate polished blued and walnut.
mcb
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There website says a 336 and 1894 version will be out next year, 30-30 & 44 mag respectively. I would guess other calibers to follow. A 336 Dark in 35 Remington or 360 Buckhammer would be hard for me to resist.
dranrab
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Who is the target market for these? Do people who want a "tactical" rifle really go for lever guns and their chamberings? I think they moved in the wrong direction for new territory with the 1894. The current 1894 has a 20" barrel. I'd rather have a 16. You pretty much max out velocity at 16 and it makes it much handier, which I would think would be one of the primary purposes of a lever gun.
Had Marlin gone with a stainless, traditional synthetic stock with a 16-17" barrel, money would be flying out of my wallet. Wild West Guns out of Anchorage can be credited for fueling the "Guide Gun" craze. They essentially built what I described 25 years ago.
I have a hunch that these will end up in clearance sales, and even then I don't think I'd be tempted. Mossberg made a tactical lever gun. It was a good gun, but didn't sell even at a much lower price.
Had Marlin gone with a stainless, traditional synthetic stock with a 16-17" barrel, money would be flying out of my wallet. Wild West Guns out of Anchorage can be credited for fueling the "Guide Gun" craze. They essentially built what I described 25 years ago.
I have a hunch that these will end up in clearance sales, and even then I don't think I'd be tempted. Mossberg made a tactical lever gun. It was a good gun, but didn't sell even at a much lower price.
mcb
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I don't know how this Ruger/Marlin Dark will do but I do know that over that last year or two that Remington owned Marlin, before Remington went belly up, that Marlin Dark series out sold every other product Remington (DPMS, Bushmaster, Rem Def etc) sold, except maybe the entry level AR's from DPMS and Bushmaster. It was on a similar order of sales but much more profitable than the entry level ARs that were basically sold at near cost. The Dark was an extremely popular and profitable product line. Time will tell if this new Dark series will be similar for Ruger.
dranrab
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Armored farmer
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#1 son has one like that. 45-70 laminated stock AR style forend.
Not exactly my Idea....but he likes it.
I would have rather had a laminated forend too.
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Not exactly my Idea....but he likes it.
I would have rather had a laminated forend too.
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small town life
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I bet the ones that say the dark series is ugly has more fde guns than black
. Less shiney means less visible. I'd rather have 1 in 44mag than 45-70 (already own 2). I only bought the R92 (don't care for top ejection) because of not knowing my options at the time. It's a good rifle and will make some upgrades from RPP.
. Less shiney means less visible. I'd rather have 1 in 44mag than 45-70 (already own 2). I only bought the R92 (don't care for top ejection) because of not knowing my options at the time. It's a good rifle and will make some upgrades from RPP.
troy fairweather
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The only thing I don't like is the metal is not stainless, I feel it should be.
mcb
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This was the Remlin 336 Dark. I live and work in Huntsville AL as an engineer. Remington's R&D facility was here in Huntsville from 2015 to the end of the company.
ETA this was the 1894 version: Original and with a Midwest aftermarket handguard. I don't remember if that handguard was offered as a factory option.
Remington-Marlin had a Dark Series. No, it was not as fully tactical as this version by Ruger. The market has shifted, RPP sells conversion kits and tactical accessories for lever guns and there are others. Someone is buying them even if not you or me.
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It has been factually stated by Ruger that they have the sales records from Remington for Marlin. The SBL was the number one seller. The Dark Series was only out for a short time but it too sold well. Ruger I am pretty sure is looking at those numbers and that this information influences the immediate production choices.
I have come to understand that people on enthusiast forums are not typical. Hog hunting is a kind of big deal in some areas and these sorts of weapons do well in that crowd and those who want to toss the rifle into a ATV and get muddy rather than sit in their living room sofa and stroke their blue and walnut rifle lovingly.
The SBL was a beautiful gun. I have no use for a 45-70, s as I would just shoot trapdoor loads from it anyway. However I feel a 45 Colt Henry X or Marlin Dark with a threaded barrel is about as purpose built as you can get free a suppressor host. IIRC the Henry has a 16” barrel while the Dark isn’t out yet.
One reason the SBL sold/sells so well is it is a legit movie star starring in Wind River and Jurrasic Park and cameos in The Kingsmen Golden Circle and the follow up of a sequel (LOL) Jurrasic Park again.
I bought my Remington made rifle from the shelf. Not because it had starred in movies but because it was beautiful, perfect, mirror finish, stainless steel, the action was smooth and slick from the box and it felt good in my hands and I have big hands and like the big loop. In fact, aside from the role in Jurrasic Park, the other three movies were still in works, ha, so they could not have influenced me.
The CBS keeps coming up as if the CBS has not been installed by JM some 40 plus years ago, nothing new there. If you do not want it, remove it with one of several kits from RPP, Beartooh Mercantile or Bighorn. Or put an O-ring in the groove or better yet, remove the butt stock, look up in there on the right side and there is a tiny little grub screw, a spring and a little ball, just remove the spring (or not) and run the grub screw in with the CBS in the OFF (fire) condition and this will lock the safety. Or, better yet, learn to use it to advantage. My 1911 has a safety and I manage that, so does just about every other firearm I have ever seen. Is it really that hard? Lock it off as 'splained and quit yer complan'n about something even God cannot undo.
mcb
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I probably will too but I think I am going to hold out for the 22LR/22Mag version.
dobedo
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Not a fan I just like the purist lever actions in wood and steel.
mcb
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They still offer that. Ruger when they stood Marlin back up did the blued and wood (hardwood and laminate) first, stainless second and now the Dark series.