627PCFan
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Im speechless but not at all suprised if thats even possible.
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wow6599
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Maybe, but I for one would love to see them try this crap in Missouri.
BTW, where was the NRA on this one?
lobo9er
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Knives are next. you all watch. they did in NYC.
Every semi-auto firearm that takes a detachable magazine which has one of the evil features (pistol grip, muzzle break, bayonet lug, collaspible stock, forward handguard, etc)
Except shotguns. ALL shotguns which accept detachable magazines are banned.
They passed it before the NRA had a chance to mobilize.
The bill wan't even PRINTED until last night. Senate was held until after midnight to vote. The general assembly was forced to take it as first order of business today. Cuomo exercised executive priviledge and issued an order which bypassed committee hearing, witness testimony, and the normal 3 day discussion period.
Not jst monitoring on ammunition.
ALL ammunition sales can be made face to face only, from a State Police authorized seller, and EVERY transaction must have a background check.
Caliber, Quantity, and your personal information will be compiled on all ammunition purchases.
Unusually high quantities will lead to investigation as to why you need that much ammunition. (Stated purpose on the header of the law is to "catch" people who are preparing for mass murder who order an unusually high number of cartridges)
Out of state sales / internet sales are prohibited.
General Geoff
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That is confusing as hell. So what you're saying is that if you have evil features, you can only have 7 rounds, but if you have, say, a basic Mini-14, you can keep using 10 rounds?
tyeo098
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I welded that muzzle brake on for nothing
EFF!
Well, Now I can grind it off and get that can I've always wanted.
*sigh* oh well.
EFF!
Well, Now I can grind it off and get that can I've always wanted.
*sigh* oh well.
For 1 year, then they must be gone. "Sell your stuff to another state" is the common answer, even when questioned about {It's not good enough for us but OK to pawn it off on others?}.
wow6599
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God, I feel for you all in NY state.
But, since this is unconstitutional, I would think a court would throw it out.
Must be some ground to stand on?
FullEffect1911
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I am absolutely appalled that a bill like this and rushed through in this manner could pass in any state. These people should be ashamed to call themselves citizens of this country.
Silent Bob
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Sounds like Maryland will be next.
SharpsDressedMan
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I guess NY didn't get the "No Compromise!" battle cry.......
Isn't filling in that blank, if that's your intentions, a requirement? That way, if the box is left unchecked, they'll get busted for improperly filling out the paperwork, which gets a much stiffer sentence than then actual murder. I know... Thinking like the left again... sorry.
bigfatdave
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they compromised last time and got the old AWB
And they're compromising now and getting this {self redacted} sandwich shoved down their throats
And next time they'll compromise again
MilsurpShooter
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Jesus I'm actually numb right now.. It's hard enough keeping up with the laws as it was, now I have to go through it all over again and try to figure out what to do to make myself compliant all over again.
With the last AWB before this one, magazines, Pre-Ban as long as they were dated were ok, I'm guessing this isn't the case anymore... And how in the world am I going to find 7 round magazines for a rifle that hasn't been made since the 60's?
With the last AWB before this one, magazines, Pre-Ban as long as they were dated were ok, I'm guessing this isn't the case anymore... And how in the world am I going to find 7 round magazines for a rifle that hasn't been made since the 60's?
pseudonymity
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Sec 17: All private sales go through a FFL, FFLs are limited to charging $10 for the transfer. Good luck with finding a FFL to take up their time for $10.
Sec 20: MDs, RNs, psychologists and clinical social workers can report anybody to the state for any reason and they lose their handgun/assault rifle license. The health care professional can not be held criminally or civilly liable, and you have no defined means of finding out who reported you. As far as I can see, there is no way for a person that has a license revoked to find out how they were reported, and no way to get your license back since you do not know why you were referred. The nurse that takes your blood pressure when you visit the MD can now have your license revoked. Lesson - all firearm owners in NY must do their best to stay far away from medical professionals.
Sec 37: Basically is the old 94 AWB definition, but only requires one evil feature. Includes thumbhole stocks and muzzle comps and brakes now as well. Pump, lever and bolt actions are exempt, and it is kind of unknown where semi autos without a detachable mag (like SKS) fall.
Sec 38: Mags over 7 rounds are banned, except for mags that are 10 rounds or less and in posession before the law passed. Relic devices that are 50 years old and specific to 50 year old guns are allowed, but need to be registered. A Garand may be in my future.
Sec 41-a: Knowingly failing to register is a class E felony.
Sec 41-b: 10 round mags are OK, but only for the person that has them when the law kicks in (60 days). We have 60 days to buy all the 10 round mags we can ever use.
Sec 46-a: Mags over 10 rounds are a class A misdemeanor, even if you have legal pre-bans today. If you posses a 10 round mag, you can not load it with more than 7 rounds (you could not make this stuff up). In your home, it is a violation, if you have a 10 round mag with more than 7 rounds loaded elsewhere, a class B misdemeanor.
Sec 48: Registration requirement, and it mixes up the "assault" registration which goes to the state police, and the handgun registration which goes to the county license agent (typically a judge).
Sec 50: Sellers of ammo that are not FFLs already must register with the state police. Ammo sellers must keep a bound book similar to FFLs and record the date, name, age, address and occupation of every seller and buyer. All ammo shipped in from out of state must go through a FFL or ammo seller.
Sec 51: All theft of guns or ammo must be reported to police within 24 hours of discovery, failure to report is a class A misdemeanor.
HankR
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First off my condolences to those of you who live in New York. I fled the east coast years ago, but realize that's not a viable option for many. I do have friends in NY state, and I feel for each of you.
Does this mean any wood/plastic in front of the trigger? For example, is a 10-22 now an assault weapon?
Does this mean any wood/plastic in front of the trigger? For example, is a 10-22 now an assault weapon?
HankR
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For the next year. After that 8 round mags are contraband [/strike] (I heard, I haven't read the law).
Edit to say: Looks like I'm spreading rumors. I had read this here and on other sites last night and earlier today. The new rumor is that mags of ten or less are grandfathered, but not larger mags and you can only load 7 in the ten round mags. This is from a snippet of the bill that somebody posted. I have not checked the actual source. Apologies.
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