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No Name 7.62x39mm Ammo

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Crazy Uncle Al Gore, Dec 20, 2007.

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  1. Crazy Uncle Al Gore

    Crazy Uncle Al Gore Member

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    I went to the gun store today and they had 7.62x39 in white boxes that say made in russia but have no manufacturer symbols or markings for $2.99 a box. It was to good a deal to pass up so I got it. My question is: are there any problems with this ammo? It's so cheap and the fact that it has no brand name makes me suspicious. Is it corrosive, inaccurate, not feed well?
    Thanks in advance.
     
  2. Evil Monkey

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    How do the rounds look like? What does it say on their head stamps?

    My guess is that they are probably wolf, barnual, golden tiger, bear, etc.

    I've seen plenty of these types of ammo at gun shows that had a different box or wrapping than the typical wolf box, golden tiger box, etc.
     
  3. rcmodel

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    You have to at least give us a headstamp to work with to answer any of your questions.

    Russian ammo in a plain white box could be anything.
    Only way to try to ID it is with the case markings.

    It's probably bulk surplus from somewhere that has been repacked by the seller.

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  4. Crazy Uncle Al Gore

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    The only markings are "711" "93"
     
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    What's the color of the case?
     
  6. Crazy Uncle Al Gore

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    They're sort of an olive greenish color.
     
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    The 711 number designates ammo made by the Russian State Ammunition Factory at Podolsk, Russia. the 93 is the year of Mfg. I thinking.
     
  8. Crazy Uncle Al Gore

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    Is that a good thing or a bad thing? :uhoh:
     
  9. Evil Monkey

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    I don't think so. Why would it be?
     
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    Well, I am not 100% for sure, but erring on the side of caution you might assume that these rounds (mil surp) were assembled with corrosive priming.

    Nothing wrong with that other then an added step cleaning. ...and cleaning needs to happen soon after firing.
     
  11. Crazy Uncle Al Gore

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    I was just suspicious because it was cheap. My main concern is weather or not it is corosive.
     
  12. Evil Monkey

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    Is the primer gray or yellow?
     
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    Holy crap. Truly THR is the center of the gun knowledge universe!

    Where they heck did you pull that one from?!?
     
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    I was in a gun shop today and saw the same ammo. Berdan primed, steel case throw away stuff. If you want to make noise it's fine, but other than that, I stay away.
     
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    yellowish gold
     
  16. Evil Monkey

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    Probably google. I found the same info there. Or he just knows his stuff.

    Hmmmm.....it doesn't seem corrosive. I think the gray primers signify that the primer is corrosive.
     
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    I've never seen commercial russian corrosive 7.62x39. If you want to be safe, pull a bullet and dump the powder from one round. Then fire the primer with point-blank at a piece of scrap steel. Clean the gun with soapy water and wait a few days. If the scrap steel doesn't rust, the ammo's not corrosive.
     
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    1993 is almost certainly corrosive. Everything from the Ruskies in 1993 was corrosive, including commercial in my experience. I have B-Square 9mm Mak from that time that is corrosive, I have 7.62x54R from Barnaul from a few years later that is corrosive, and 7.62x39 from about that time that is corrosive.

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    I would agree with Ash. I assume ALL surplus ammo is corrosive and make sure that I wash everything down with windex before I actually start to clean my rifles in earnest! I have been shooting corrsive 7.62x39 in my norinco sks for 15 years w/o a problem.
     
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    I've shot corrosive ammo through my Yugo SKS with no problems either. I'm just gonna stress again that you must use soapy water or windex directly after your session/day at the range is over. Do this before you clean your weapon the normal way. Do this and corrosive ammo will not give you a problem, they have been using it for years anyway, if the firearm is properly maintained, it will have a very long life.
     
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    Well, corrosive ammo does have an advantage, and that is long storage life. Corrosive primers store longer than our current non-corrosive variety.

    Ash
     
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    Yes, the last thing you want is to pick up the rifle later and realize the bolt handle won't come back. Then when you finally get it back, you realize there is rust all in the gas return and around the piston. Luckily, that was just my WASR, not my Vepr. I cleaned the barrel and not the gas tube.
     
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    I think I've fired a bunch of the same stuff...corrosive. Just takes extra cleaning.
     
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