Non engraved Double rifles?

[rockstar.esq]

I really like the concept of a double rifle however I can't afford one. I could do without fine wood or engraving however the only current maker I know of is the Izmash over unders imported in Remington's "Spartan" line. Do any of you know of other options? Thanks in advance.

 

[mp510]

Also from Baikal, EAA used to market a .45/70 conversion for their Baikal made SXS shotgun.

 

[skeeter1]

I really like the concept of a double rifle however I can't afford one.

My dad used to refer to that as having "champagne taste but a beer pocketbook." I've admired double rifles (at least the side-by-side ones) for all of my life, and I know that I'll never be able to afford one. Besides, the extra-fancy walnut stocks and some engraving are part of the appeal. I have one shotgun that falls in that category, and I'm glad I bought it years ago before I owned a house and a whole lot more financial responsibilities. I could never afford to replace it today. Good luck in your quest.

 

[Jim Watson]

Fine wood and engraving are only a small part of the cost of a good double rifle. A dead plain one is not going to cost a whole lot less than a moderately fancy one of the same shooting quality.

Sorry about that.

 

[H&Hhunter]

Well, what is your budget?

You can get into a real nice Chapuis 9.3X74 or a Siace in .45-70 for under $5,000.

That is about as cheap as you can get into a traditional SXS of any quality.

 

[rugerfreak]

Was about to say----even a GOOD plain one is gonna set ya back $5k. Sorry just how it is.

 

[Twud]

There is an ad that runs monthly in Rifle magazine for custom made doubles at
affordable costs.
On our way back from Africa we had a layover in London. I grabbed a cab and went to Holland and Holand. Only gun store I've ever been in where everyone was in a coat and tie except me. Anyway, they started pulling doubles off the shelf while wearing white cotton gloves. I kept turning my nose up as I had to have a .470. Only thing to do was have one built. Money was pretty loose at the time and I probably could have bought one, but you had to make an appointment for fitting, and you had to come back for a second fitting in 4-5 months. You could expect delivery 5-6 months after that. Gorgeous guns, they had some of the prettiest walnut I've ever seen. Fit and finish were perfect.
At the time the dollar was weak and the gun would have wound up costing about $25,000, and was probably a good investment, as they are now around $100,000.
Anyway I bought 2 tattersal shirts at $100 each, and offered my thanks.
I still have the salesman's card in my Rolodex.
Mark

BTW- They threw in a set of dies made from the same reamer as the gun. Thought that was damn nice of em.

 

[rockstar.esq]

Such a shame so many wonderful things aren't affordable! If anybody knew where a fellow could lay hands on the aforementioned 45-70 barrels for the Baikal, I think that's the closest I'll ever get. I'd be much obliged.

 

[TehK1w1]

Unfortunately, double rifles must have the barrels regulated to each other for accuracy, and it must be done by hand, not machine(for a well-regulated barrel, anyway). Since this is a very time-consuming process that precludes mass production, the final product is pretty expensive.

 

[Dr.Rob]

Pedersoli makes a double .45/70 for around $2k.. maybe $2500. Cabela's sells them.

 

[ArmedBear]

http://www.davidepedersoli.com/ArmiCategoria.aspx?CategoriaId=280&lang=en

Plain:

Engraved:

Percussion:

 

[Twud]

If they had a box lock I'd consider one.

 

[ArmedBear]

If they had a box lock I'd consider one.

LOL

First time I've seen THAT...

 

[Dr.Rob]

That's based on a Colt double rifle made in the 1880's I think. I kind of want one though I wouldn't be throwing nuclear rated 45-70 handloads out of it.

 

[GunTech]

The Pederoli is available in both 45-70 and 9.3x74R. The latter is similar to the 375 H&H. I've fired Garrett 45-70s through one with no issues. Keep in mind that all side by side double guns are only capable of fairly low pressures. This is the reason that double gun cartridges are so large - to keep peak pressure low while achieving reasonable velocity. The 458WM and the 470 NE are basically almost identical cartridges in terms of energy, but the 470 is much larger to keep pressure manageable in double rifles.

At about $4000-5000, the Pedersoli Kodiak IV is one of the more reasonable side by side double rifles to be found. However, if you shop carefully, it is still possible to find old English double guns at reasonable prices. Most of these are in proprietary or obsolete calibers and thus are not in as high a demand. Plan on spending at least a couple thousand for these.