Non-firearm CQB weapon for the UK

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A rapier greatly limits your attacks and requires a certain amount of training, though. An actual saber, not a fencing type, however, is still an excellent idea. Get a pretty one to hand on the bedroom wall...it was the only thing handy, My Lord.
 
SM,

How'd you know I got a range rover???:confused:

Lo.Com.Denom

Those mask's do look cool, don't if I'd want to take one in the face though, must be like getting smacked round the head with a slegde hammer.

That site does armour for nearly every bodypart??
When civilisation starts to crumble I know where I'm going shopping!!:)
 
IS this for your house or outside?
Inside, you have plenty of choices that could be just "lying around" when mr burglar comes around - a good old claw hammer for example.
Outside, a simple but effective weapon is a tightly rolled magazine (dont laugh), especially with a little martial arts training. If you want to be a little more inventive, you could have just bought some oven cleaner (so you were not intending to carry it as a weapon)...
Is a kubotan still legal? If not, you could still arrange your keys in a certain way...
 
Carried oven spray, without other groceries, could be deemed to be a chemical weapon. This is true in many jurisdictions.

It's also not that effective, and if you wind up spraying the wrong way, you get hurt yourself. I recommend against it.

However, hot peppers and rubbing alcohol in a good spray bottle (assuming they're legal) are more painful, less likely to cause injury, and have a better range.

Or use grain alcohol and it doubles as chili seasoning.:evil:
 
If you're out and about, how about a stout cane and some training?

Oven Spray a chemical weapon? Jeeze...

GB would be one of the best places in the world were it not for the stupid laws passed since WWII.
 
If it's HD we're talking about, take a recommened SD class and keep yourself in shape and do finger strengthening exercises.

You've got the advantage on home turf anyway, and if it's at night, just kill the lights and whisper "I'm gonna kill ya'' loud enough to freak them out.....:)

If they look like crack-heads, unless you knock 'em out, runaway, because they still won't be scared even if you managed to chop both their arms off.

These are just my thoughts, make of them what you will.

DW
 
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CQB implement for Britain

What about a entrenching tool or one of those "auto" shovels?
 
Tools or sports equipment

Items from hardware stores or sports stores (large ratchet wrenches, cricket bats, etc.) could be used in the home but are obviously not weapons.

A good claw hammer would be a scary thing to face. :eek:

Regards,
Dirty Bob
 
HD in GB

Here's what ya do. You take a Sharpie, and write "Born to Kill" on your forehead, (use a mirror). Dress for the occasion in your best kilt, smoking jacket, and combat boots (K-pot optional). Now pour yourself a snifter of brandy, and strap on you best battleaxe (You ARE a Limey).:p Now, when the miscreant enters, you should have a pipe sticking out of your mouth, brandy in hand, battleaxe on your back, and riding crop in your off-hand. Said miscreant will most probably realize that he is SOL and JWF, or he will blow a gasket laughing himself stupid, in either case, a few choice thumps with the riding crop should cause the ne'er-do-well to hightail out of your residence. If worst comes to worst, throw the brandy in his face, drop the pipe, and unsling "Maude" to show him you mean BUSINESS!! Or just use the Austin Powers "Judo Chop" it always works.:p
 
Another good one would be an easily breakable glass bottle. Just walk around with a Sobe or something and you'll be all set.
 
Once again, I'm going to respectfully suggest that cutting someone with anything short and sharp is NOT an intelligent action in this day. Offensive wounds are common. Blood is dangerous.

J
 
Think I'm gonna invest in a surefire defender and a spyderco UK pen knife for everyday carry (both UK legal) and maybe a cold steel boar spear for an interesting wall piece next to the bed??

Any Thoughts??

I wouldn't aim to cut anyone with a short blade as Mr Shirley's comments are quite correct on the dangers of blood, I even got poisoned by getting my own blood in my eyes!!

DW
 
Good idea on the Surefire.

More than once on field exercises, we used camera flashes to blind sentries at night. Point, close eyes, flash. It's disorienting and destroys any night vision.

Then briskly apply a Blunt Instrument Of Enlightenment:D
 
How about a large Maglite?
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YES. Great idea- 4 C cell size is about optimal for this, for me. Judicious "tactical" application of light= good.

Being able to use your light weekly is a bonus. :)

John
 
I once handled a 6 D-cell Maglight.

:evil:

A bit long for easy carry, but probably drops right into a speed ring...;)

And it is a flashlight, not a weighted club, honest.:D
 
Surefire and Cold Steel are a good combination for the UK although you need to be aware that the CPS might catch on to the E2d's 'defensive' design and argue they are weapons per se. Under the Prevention of Crime Act they reverse the burden of proof to the defendant if he is carrying a 'weapon per se' but with an E2e for example the onus would be on the Prosecution to prove your criminal intent and would be unlikely to even charge you.

"If they look like crack-heads, unless you knock 'em out, runaway, because they still won't be scared even if you managed to chop both their arms off."

What if you cannot easily run away though? What if your family are relying on you for their protection?

Weapons are designed to be more relieable than tools or sports equipment so depending on your individual circumstances you may be far better to just buy a weapon that is legally obtainable in your area and stick with it. Also if you bend or break a tool the prosecution can just use it to illustrate how hard you hit the poor burglar and how out of control you must have been.
 
The logic used seems to be, "This item is intended as a weapon. Therefore, by buying a weapon, you intended, hoped, CRAVED to get in a fight. Therefore, you had no intent to run away, and maliciously attacked the poor defendant who was merely taking a late night stroll in your living room while pursuing his antique resale business, shame on you, you heathen, atavistic killer!"

I wonder when they'll ban fire extinguishers. After all, firefighting is best left to professionals.:rolleyes:

So I'd say go with the sporting goods or well-made decorative pieces. "It's all I had at hand. I never INTENDED to have to hurt someone."

I prefer hanging out at the gun show here.

Police officer: "Holy @#$, dude, what is that shotgun for?"

me: "Killing scumbags at 0300."

Polcie officer: "Ought to do it, but damn, I'd hate to do the cleanup. Have you considered a nice, ladylike .357?"
 
"If they look like crack-heads, unless you knock 'em out, runaway, because they still won't be scared even if you managed to chop both their arms off."

What if you cannot easily run away though? What if your family are relying on you for their protection?
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Matt, that was part of what "I" thought was a humerous post that was aimed at street and home defense, but the humerous bit got er...."Edited", (english sarcasm strikes again!!)

As for the running away bit, I'm not 'genetically' able to run away, the last time we had a break in (18mths ago) I popped home at lunchtime, walked part way in saw the mess and ran through the house looking for 'them', not a thought as to them being armed etc...but found no-one.

And about a year ago, had a call at work from my next door neighbour saying someone with was hammering in my kitchen window and that they had called the police, I got there same time as the police and just ran straight round the back to the kitchen window, again, no thought to them being armed , just ran in, fortunately for both of us, he had gone.

Instinct just takes over.

If I had already been at home, I've no doubt I would have gone straight to the gun safe.

No, in all fairness, I'm concerned about the 'defender' tag on the surefire, but if there was a situation that called for me to use it, I'm sure the vast collection of Paladin Press books, gun magazines, MA books, knife and gun collections at home will probably raise more eyebrows than the torch:)

But as one of my local Bobby's kindly pointed out, whist investigating a car break-in at the range car park, if you do wind up shooting someone, make sure you put at least a screwdriver in their hand before anyone turns up:)

Still makes me laugh about the stupidity of someone breaking into a car out side a shooting range, must have had a death wish????
 
It was 1997, September. The 12th, I believe. We had a double Darwin Award in Indianapolis.

See, everything by the Indianapolis Motor Speedway (which is not in Indianapolis, but in the town of Speedway) is the "Speedway" or "500" something.

So, two young men, 18 and 20, went into 500 Guns on 16th Street to rob it.

During business hours.

Armed with knives.

Yes, knives.:eek:

After some scuffling, the owner shot one in the head and one in the heart.

A few minutes later, IPD arrived.

Now, I have a lot of issues with IPD, but they handled this exactly by the book.

"Dayum. Knives. They were some stupid sons of #$%, weren't they? You okay, sir? Alright then. Shoot some photos, tag 'em, bag 'em and drag 'em, boys."

Three column inches on the bottom of the front page for those with a macabre sense of humor.

End of story.:cool:
 
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