NPR: Amid Fears Of New Restrictions, Gun Sales Surge

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I honestly don't understand why people think guns used in suicides is a bad thing. Messy perhaps, but if a person wants to off himself, a gun is statistically the most reliable means of carrying out that wish.
 
More to the point, people shouldn't focus on the weapon used at all, regardless of what it is.

The fact of the matter is that those individuals truly wishing to end their lives will make it happen, one way or the other. The fact that firearms happen to be a fairly common means isn't really relevant. Society needs to focus itself on the reasons people commit the act, and work on developing better support systems for those in need.
 
I’m sure you’re joking, but no one should have to see that mess; they’ll say “if only he didn’t have a gun handy when that fit of depression hit him…”.

If you’re ever suicidal, and you still believe that free people should retain the right to have these dangerous things, then you should work out a better way to off yourself.
 
Ehh, I think one could come up with better ways to off oneself. Just ask anyone who has dealt with Major Depression. Using a firearm does account for a little over half of the US's suicides though.

I do agree the whole reporting the suicides in death statistics is rather loony, and a way to bolster otherwise mundane numbers.
 
This story could use some more pro-RKBA comments. The last comment has some "facts", such as:
"A gun in the home is 22 times more likely to be used in an unintentional shooting, a criminal assault or homicide, or an attempted or completed suicide than to be used to injure or kill in self-defense. "
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You might find information to refute some of those claims in this thread.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=456031
 
"Using a firearm does account for a little over half of the US's suicides though."

And? It accounts for a tiny fraction for the Japanese who have much higher rates of suicide then we do. Ergo, tool/method is not important. People find a way if that's what they intend. It inly gives power to the antis to make such statements. :scrutiny:
 
National Public Radio often reflects an urban/left perspective in its news reports, with occasionally a little bit of the other side to give the appearance of balance. I doubt that they bother to check the accuracy of any statement that fits whatever they are trying to put across. The one mentioned in the opening post has been thoroughly discredited many times, but as long as there is a pro-gun control news media it will be brought forward whenever it’s necessary. Anyone who believes that what NPR put out is news is deluded. Unfortunately there are many such people.
 
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"Using a firearm does account for a little over half of the US's suicides though."
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The whole gun/suicide relationship was settled years ago.

When the original Brady Law was passed, with it's accompanying waiting period, gun suicides dropped by 50%.


However, the OVERALL suicide rate didn't change in the slightest.

So sure, handguns are sometimes a handy tool for suicide but if that tool isn't available suicidal people will find another way.

And according to what happened in 1993 anyway, they find another tool 100% of the time.
 
"Using a firearm does account for a little over half of the US's suicides though."

And? It accounts for a tiny fraction for the Japanese who have much higher rates of suicide then we do. Ergo, tool/method is not important. People find a way if that's what they intend. It inly gives power to the antis to make such statements.
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I doubt it gives power to the "antis" to state a statistical fact. One they could easily find themselves.

The whole gun/suicide relationship was settled years ago.

When the original Brady Law was passed, with it's accompanying waiting period, gun suicides dropped by 50%.


However, the OVERALL suicide rate didn't change in the slightest.

So sure, handguns are sometimes a handy tool for suicide but if that tool isn't available suicidal people will find another way.

And according to what happened in 1993 anyway, they find another tool 100% of the time.
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Ok. That's exactly what I was saying. Thanks for saying the same thing over again.
 
The Japanese are offing themselves at a rate 4X the US rate. They aren't using guns. Chemicals, pills, hanging and especially throwing themselves in front of trains. They have trains called "suicide specials." Joe
 
The Japanese are offing themselves at a rate 4X the US rate. They aren't using guns. Chemicals, pills, hanging and especially throwing themselves in front of trains. They have trains called "suicide specials." Joe
 
Suicide is probably the worst excuse against firearms. If you were to remove the weapon from a person trying to commit suicide, they'd find a way to end their life regardless, and it'd probably prolong the pain more, yet they'd still die.

I agree 100% with kingpin, guns shouldn't matter when you're talking about the subject - you should talk less about how someone's going to kill themselves and more about how to prevent it.
 
I think NPR just wanted to get that bar graph out. They are clearly an anti-gun organization with a liberal tilt. I don't pay much attention to them, but I did save the link to the graph.
 
Well if your bar for "ballanced" was Fox News, then I guess you would think NPR has a tilt. :p I listen to NPR on a regular basis, and they actually tend to go out of their way to have a strong representative from both sides of an issue speak when they are debating an issue. The same can not be said for the other major news networks, IMHO. And judging from many of the people I have heard call in for those shows, their audiance is far from being made up entirely of "liberals."
 
I think that we need to close the indoctrination loophole.

It's time for us to stop tax-free and tax-supported organizations that are spreading lies aimed at destroying the American Constitution and Bill of Rights.

New Pravda Radio is a prime offender.
 
Well if your bar for "ballanced" was Fox News, then I guess you would think NPR has a tilt. :p I listen to NPR on a regular basis, and they actually tend to go out of their way to have a strong representative from both sides of an issue speak when they are debating an issue. The same can not be said for the other major news networks, IMHO. And judging from many of the people I have heard call in for those shows, their audiance is far from being made up entirely of "liberals."
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Then it must have changed over the last couple of years. I quit listening to NPR a couple of years ago. You are right about NPR presenting both sides, but most of the time the liberal position has a well spoken, slick talking person, while the position on the right has someone who is over their head arguing their position.
 
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