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Piece was on NPR's "Day to Day." Revealing about the nanny state anti-gun culture. Audio is supposed to be posted by 3pm today.

My reply:

In her "Killing is the New Fighting" piece, I heard Aicia Walker describe a culture that is so alien to me, it might as well be on a different planet.

I grew up in a midwestern rural culture where almost everyone has a gun, and shootings of people are almost unheard of. One person assaulting another person, or invading another person's home, is also incredibly rare - due partly, I believe, to the deterrent effect of knowing that an intended victim is likely to be armed.

Aicia's mother told her that you have to be a humble person to own a gun, because when you get angry the first thing you are going to think of is shooting someone. I guess I must come from a culture of almost entirely humble people, because we just don't think that way. We're human, and we get angry; yes. I'm licensed to carry a gun and I usually do. I've been angry with a gun on my hip thousands of times, and never once has it ever occurred to me to shoot someone, just because I was angry.

Aicia says that in her culture, people don't think about the future: they just act on their immediate impulses without regard to the consequences. Seems to me that this kind of behavior is likely to cause a lot more problems than just those involving guns.

Political folks who represent Aicia's culture think the solution is to get rid of the guns. People aren't and can't be expected to wield power judiciously, they say, so let's just take away their power. This isn't a solution, it's an insult.

In Aicia's culture, she says, people used to use their fists to solve disputes. Now they use guns, and she sees this as a gun problem. To me, this sounds like more of a culture problem than a gun problem.

In my culture, people don't use guns or fists to solve disputes. Maybe Aicia should start focusing on her culture instead of focusing on guns.

Antsi

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On a mountaintop in a land far away and a time not so long ago there gathered an infinite number of wholesome-looking young people to deliver the message of a new generation: "I'd Love to Teach the World to Sing."

That new generation of the 1970s favored Coke by a wide margin. They drank it and snorted it too. And from the depths of their souls they chanted "I'd Love to Give the World a Coke."

Thus inspired, the generation of Barack Obama had their vision of a new America soon to be reborn:

“As I’ve said about the flag pin, I don’t want to be perceived as taking sides,” Obama said. “There are a lot of people in the world to whom the American flag is a symbol of oppression. And the anthem itself conveys a war-like message. You know, the bombs bursting in air and all. It should be swapped for something less parochial and less bellicose. I like the song ‘I’d Like to Teach the World to Sing.’ If that were our anthem, then I might salute it.”
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Who, after all, would want the President of the United States of America to take sides? Only a rascal would want that.

Guns are yukky. They make loud noises that sometimes drown out our boomboxes and the speakers in our cars, which makes it harder to talk on our cellphones as we're driving.
 
Well, according to the website it's "Ayesha," and not Alicia . . . maybe you can edit that part?
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Yes, my bad.

I heard the piece on the radio and wrote and emailed my reply to the address they mentioned on air. Then I found the link and realized I had mis-heard the young woman's name.

I just can't get over how sad this is that this young woman has such low expectations - or such a low opinion - of her peers. Perhaps that low opinion is justified by their behavior. It's very sad for them, and very scary for me, that so many of our "leaders" seem determined to re-structure our society and our laws to accommodate this kind of mentality.
 
I listen to NPR!
the saying -Keep your friends close --and keep your enemies closer comes to mind ..
I work with a person who listens to NPR [national propaganda radio] all the time . He went to see broakback mountain -[Like Im supprised ] and hes extreamly ANTI GUN and anti hunting . I listen to RUSH in my shop and My boss [Also a LIBERAL Yomomma supporter came out to the shop and said "Id like to use one of those guns you have to shoot that fat son==%^^%#$#$@@_*(&^%#)!!!!
Bests part is last week I told him Dont Be rubbing that Liberal stuff in my face ---Its the reason your loosing your Manager as we are moving to Ky.
 
Robert,
This is a spoof.

“As I’ve said about the flag pin, I don’t want to be perceived as taking sides,” Obama said. “There are a lot of people in the world to whom the American flag is a symbol of oppression. And the anthem itself conveys a war-like message. You know, the bombs bursting in air and all. It should be swapped for something less parochial and less bellicose. I like the song ‘I’d Like to Teach the World to Sing.’ If that were our anthem, then I might salute it.”
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Before I went to the desert southwest I was surrounded by liberals. I would get a migrain just hearing them discuss things like clouds or cheeseburgers. I have yet to meet a liberal that I want to be in their company. They do have their place in the world and do allow us to see things from the other side of the coin. But I wish that after delivering their speech or thoughts, they would just get back in their space-ships and return to whatever star they originated from.

The funny thing is, I consider myself a liberal libertarian. In fact, I believe one needs to be a liberal in order to truly embrace libertarianism.
 
“As I’ve said about the flag pin, I don’t want to be perceived as taking sides,” Obama said. “There are a lot of people in the world to whom the American flag is a symbol of oppression. And the anthem itself conveys a war-like message. You know, the bombs bursting in air and all. It should be swapped for something less parochial and less bellicose. I like the song ‘I’d Like to Teach the World to Sing.’ If that were our anthem, then I might salute it.”
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Mr Hairless:
Please excuse my naivete. That quote (if real) is pretty bizarre - and insulting. However, the writer is identfied as a satirist. Did Obama actually say this - or is it in fact satire?

[EDIT] Uhhh...I guess a few others beat me to it.
 
Mr Hairless:
Please excuse my naivete. That quote (if real) is pretty bizarre - and insulting. However, the writer is identfied as a satirist. Did Obama actually say this - or is it in fact satire?
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The link in the post is clearly marked as satire.

In bold right at the top of the page.
 
The link in the post is clearly marked as satire.
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I didn't get any sleep last night because my dog goes absolutely berserk in a thunder storm - and we had a rare 15-hour thunder storm last night. That's my excuse - and I'm sticking to it - for failing to see the obvious satire (from Robert Hairless, no less!)
 
I listened to the same broadcast and had a completely different take on the interviews and discussion. It sounded like the kids, lived their lives in ghettos where gangs and violent crimes seem to be a daily occurrence. I wasn't positive but I thought they were in Cleveland or Detroit.
I'm don't know about where anyone else lives but I have been in areas in the city where I've heard gunshots going off pretty frequently day and night. I wouldn't want to live there either.
 
Aicia says that in her culture, people don't think about the future: they just act on their immediate impulses without regard to the consequences
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And there you have it in a nutshell. In a disciplined culture where there are costly, sometimes painful or fatal consequences for personal choices and action(s), people are forced to think about consequences before they act on impulse, desire, anger etc.

This is one of the reasons why in many countries where there is corporal punishment for certain crimes - crimes that are very common in this country - are quite rare in those countries.

In Alicia's world, culture, discipline and responsibility are absent. That is what needs fixing.

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The funny thing is, I consider myself a liberal libertarian. In fact, I believe one needs to be a liberal in order to truly embrace libertarianism.
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I too, Sir, am a hard-core, dues-paying Libertarian but I certainly don't consider myself a liberal in the current political definition. Libertarianism grew out of the shortcomings of Left/Right theory and much more closely matches my fervent independence. Although we are "liberal" in the classic definition, the term has been perverted to the point that it's mere mention shuts a lot of people down.
 
Everything she says is crap....

They are trying to act as if the world is changed. Did they mention they live in California? I guess all the gun bans work. Also, if her thesis was true, there wouldn't be anyone left in that area.

"Our generation doesn't fight, they kill."

Uhhhh

This sounds like crap. :barf:
 
the term has been perverted to the point that it's mere mention shuts a lot of people down.
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I agree. A Bitch is still a female dog even though society has also corrupted that word and made it's terminology unacceptable in public company. So what word would you use that would exemplify being a Libertarian?
 
Dictionaries are written by Liberals apparently

Main Entry: libertine
Part of Speech: adjective
Synonyms: debauched, dissolute, freethinking, immoral, lascivious, lecherous, lewd, libidinous, licentious, lustful, profligate, rakish, sensual

Main Entry: libertine
Part of Speech: noun
Synonyms: cyprian, debauchee, debauchery, lecher, lechery, paillard, profligacy, profligate, rake, rou�, satyr, sensualist, sensuality, voluptuary

Main Entry: liberal
Part of Speech: adjective
Synonyms: abundant, ample, benevolent, bounteous, bountiful, broad, catholic, charitable, copious, flexible, free, freehanded, generous, giving, handsome, hospitable, knowledgeable, latitudinarian, lavish, lenient, magnanimous, messianic, munificent, open, open-handed, openhanded, philanthropic, plentiful, princely, prodigal, profuse, progressive, radical, tolerant, unstinted
Antonyms: bigoced, illiberal, limited, narrow, stingy, ungenerous

Main Entry: broad
Part of Speech: adjective
Definition: Not narrow or conservative in thought, expression, or conduct.
Synonyms: broad-minded, open-minded, progressive, tolerant

Most of the definitions that are applied to a liberal should really also apply to a libertarian.
 
Obama didn't say that of course. But on the other hand, one running for president doesn't just casually not wear a flag pin and not put the hand over the heart. it was a product of much thought and it was intended to send a message. The satire piece was one person's interpretation of what that message might be. To me, I don't know how to interpret any way other than "I don't care for the flag and I will not pledge allegiance to it."
 
My take on the NPR story today was that after the lead in, the following discussion was somewhat disconnected from it and did not make any statement about the headline, so to speak.
 
Excuse me while I translate this to show was Osama really means.

“As I’ve said about the flag pin, I don’t want to be perceived as taking sides,” Obama said. “There are a lot of people in the world to whom the American flag is a symbol of oppression.
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"I don't support America and I fully intend to sell you out and stab you in the back the first chance I get. There will be changes if I'm elected, changes that will regulate America to a status equal to the rest of the nations. You're not special, you don't deserve special treatment, you need to belong to the one world nation."

And the anthem itself conveys a war-like message. You know, the bombs bursting in air and all. It should be swapped for something less parochial and less bellicose. I like the song ‘I’d Like to Teach the World to Sing.’ If that were our anthem, then I might salute it.”
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"America should be ashamed of its violent history. You need to be peacenics who hug trees, have long hair, wear beads and flowers, wear natural fibers and tout signs which read "make love not war" and "give peace a chance". It's time to shame those that believe in using force of any sort for any reason."
 
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