NULA 32 .404 Jeffrey

[94045]

I was on GunBroker and happened to notice a NULA Model 32 in .404 Jeffrey.
I've fired one that was 9.375 lb (+ Scope) in a CZ550 Lux (Stock design tends to reduce recoil at the expense of muzzle climb). It was tolerable from a standing bench (not that much worse than a .375 H&H). I can't imagine shooting one from a 7.25 lb rifle with a straight stock. Sure seems like it would be punishing.

Would you buy a 7.25 lb .404 Jeffrey with a straight stock?

 

[Riomouse911]

That’s a lot of horsepower in a light rifle, I’ll hazard a guess that it’ll knock one or two fillings loose on the bench without a lead sled.

If you shoot standing up so you have some give, and/or muzzle brake/mercury recoil reduce it, the recoil will be a lot more tolerable.

Stay safe!

 

[adcoch1]

I would budget into the purchase price a mercury recoil reducer to put in the stock. That is too light for that much cartridge unless it never gets shot more than once at a time.

 

[cheygriz]

A rifle like that was designed to be carried by a gun bearer. It should weigh aroung 12-13 pounds.

 

[chicharrones]

Would you buy a 7.25 lb .404 Jeffrey with a straight stock?

No. I would not.

 

[LoonWulf]

I'm Pretty sure @Jessesky needs that rifle......

 

[LoonWulf]

As to the question, if it were cheap enough I'd buy it. You can always download it.



Damnit....how'd that end up as two posts.

 

[DannyLandrum]

Uhhhh, let's not and say we did.

Putting recoil reducers into a rifle that you just paid a $1,500+ premium to have specially lightened makes no sense.

http://newultralightarms.com/

 

[paulsj]

I was on GunBroker and happened to notice a NULA Model 32 in .404 Jeffrey.
I've fired one that was 9.375 lb (+ Scope) in a CZ550 Lux (Stock design tends to reduce recoil at the expense of muzzle climb). It was tolerable from a standing bench (not that much worse than a .375 H&H). I can't imagine shooting one from a 7.25 lb rifle with a straight stock. Sure seems like it would be punishing.

Would you buy a 7.25 lb .404 Jeffrey with a straight stock?

Yes if I spent a lot of time in Alaskan wilderness where large bears can be encountered.

 

[DannyLandrum]

Sorry, no. You *need* your retinas intact, don't you? (and I'm being totally serious about that)

 

[adcoch1]

Don't get my wrong, I'd love to have a 404 jeff, but in a 12 lb double rifle. That same bolt gun in 375 h&h maybe, or a 30-06. But my eyes and shoulder are too valuable to me to needlessly abuse them. Hence my earlier comment about recoil reducers...

 

[94045]

The .404 Jeffrey isn't really that bad in a 10.5 lb rifle with a properly designed stock. It's certainly easier on the shoulder than the .416 Rigby, Remington or Ruger.

The .378 Wby is much nastier as well. Come to think of it I cant remember anything much more unpleasant than the .378 B. Think Hot 300 Mag x 2. It's got that same kind of hard jab times 2. Feels about like setting of two 12 ga slugs in a 7 lb SxS at the same time except the velocity seems.higher.

If I was buying a double it would be in .450/400 NE.

 

[the Black Spot]

I would, but add some lead to get the appropriate weight desired

 

[Jessesky]

I'm Pretty sure @Jessesky needs that rifle......

Sound like a better option than the .400 Whelen! I do rather like big bores, that’s for sure. Considering my Gunbroker tag is “BigboreHikemore”.

To the OP, 400gr 404 Jeff at 2300 is not too far off of a 350gr 375 holland at 2300. And suspect the impulse to be better. My 375 is 8lb

 

[DM~]

From what "I" know about the 404, I'd want to shoot it BEFORE I pass judgement on it...

DM

 

[someguy2800]

No way Jose. Wrong rifle for the cartridge. Adding weight to a NULA would be like buying a porche and then putting it on a 1 ton pickup frame so you can pull the camper too.

 

[94045]

To the OP, 400gr 404 Jeff at 2300 is not too far off of a 350gr 375 holland at 2300. And suspect the impulse to be better. My 375 is 8lb

OP here. I'm not really considering it. I asked if anyone else would.

I have fired a .404 Jeffrey - 10.5 lb (Scope & Ammo), a .416 Rigby - 11 lb (Scope & Ammo), .450/400 NE - 12 lb and .470 NE - 13 lb all with African style stocks that have less direct rearward recoil at the expense of more muzzle climb.

I concluded my limit is the .404 Jeffrey and .450/400. I will not be be buying a straight stock or a lighter rifle if I buy one. A 2 lb lighter rifle and straight stock strikes me as a way to replicate .416 Rigby Recoil or worse. No Thank You!

A 8 lb .375 (If thats bare) with an African Style Stock I can see, A 3/4 lb lighter .404 with an American Style Stock would put out roughly 25% more recoil multiplied about 20% by stockbdesign so roughly 50% more perceived recoil than your rifle (if it had an African style stock). I simply am not man enough not to avoid developing a flinch with that rifle. It's why a .416 Rigby isn't on my short list.