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NY Pistol Permit Application - How Long?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Lake Front, Oct 22, 2009.

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  1. Lake Front

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    Hello to all. I'm a new user, but have lurked on the site for several years, and have found useful information when needed.

    Anyway, I live in upstate NY and recently applied for my pistol permit (early September). Something I have put off for years. Many New Yorkers already know how difficult or time consuming it can be to complete the initial application and review process in NY, but I thought it might be interesting for other states to see how long it actually takes to go through this process via periodic updates to this thread.

    I have been told by the local permit office that it could take 6-9 months! Which I feel is absurd for normal law abiding citizens. Luckly the County I live in is open to concelled carry permits, but nothing is guarenteed in NY.

    One of the strangest items so far was that the office sent a questionaire to my four character references (BTW, they needed to live in the same County). Some of the questions my own parents could not answer, and on top of that, they wanted the questionaire notarized. I had no issue with notarizing the application, but a notary for the character reference questionaire, to me, is a little over board.

    I will try to update the thread as I go through the process, and maybe by March or April of next year, I will have my permit. At least it will give me a few months to decide what I want to purchase.
     
  2. rm23

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    Isn't that great? NYS law says that the county has 6 months to give you the permit, but the counties just ignore it. I'm from Renssalaer County and I'm going to hold off getting the permit. I'm hoping that the upcoming Supreme Court case does something to change the fact that we have to ask permission to exercise our Constitutional rights.
     
  3. spartywrx

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    If Alan Gura wins his lawsuit and we get strict scrutiny, 6-9 months is most defniately an obvious infringement. I smell a lawsuit by NYSRPA if Gura wins.
     
  4. mete

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    It all depends on the judge as the permits are county issued though they are state permits. BTW , the 6-9 months is not unusual as I understand but part of that delay may be the feds as they do a background check.My friend had his delayed ,9 mos IIRC because of backlogs with the feds.
     
  5. wnycollector

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    In NY, your wait time all depends upon what county you reside in. I am VERY lucky to live in Niagara County where 2 month turnaround, full unrestricted carry permits are the norm. Right next door in Erie county jerks you around for 12+ months and then only issues a "target/hunting" permit. Good luck!
     
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  6. snowtigger

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    Alaska; No permit required!! You can get one but you only need it if you are going to carry in another state where it is required.
     
  7. everallm

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    It all depends on the judge as the permits are county issued though they are state permits. BTW , the 6-9 months is not unusual as I understand but part of that delay may be the feds as they do a background check.My friend had his delayed ,9 mos IIRC because of backlogs with the feds.

    That, I'm afraid is BS, the "background check" consists of basically the same info pull as in a NICS check, its not a TS/SCI with lifestyle.......

    It's real simple, the longer and harder the police take to make it the more the chance folks will walk away.
     
  8. Speedo66

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    NYS specifically passed a law to limit abusive permit issue time to 6 months.

    The only reason for a longer period is some sort of delay out of the issuing counties' hands.

    If they take longer than that, you should be questioning it. The fact that they're "busy" is not a legitimate reason.

    A Westchester county shooters coalition established a liason with the chief judge of that county and regularly calls the person assigned to deal with it if there is a problem. They also give out that person's email for the individual to keep contact also.

    This is a great idea and should be done in every one of the 57 counties outside of NYC if there are problems.
     
  9. lobo9er

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    true as it is they don't always abide by the rules they make.
     
  10. tpaw

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    Here in Nassau County, NY it takes about 6 months sometimes less. Much depends on how fast turn around information is received by your investigator and how many applications he or she are investigating at the same time. Just comply with whatever is necessary and let the process takes it's course. It's not a long time to wait for something you'll probably have for the rest of your life.
     
  11. Daveboone

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    Mine took about 3 months, most of my friends permits 3-4. They frequently sit on a judges desk until he decides to get to the, and where in the stack yours is can be a factor. For what it is worth, one acquaintance asked me to be a reference...she was as unstable as a 3 legged chair, and I "lost" her references. They apparently cant hold that against the applicant, and still gave it to her in a timely fashion.
     
  12. Dominus

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    Theres a 4 - 6 months around here in Westchester.
    At least thats what they told me for mine (5 months).

    All you can do is summit the paper work and be patient, breaking balls won't help.

    Good luck.
     
  13. FLNT4EVR

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    Albany NY You will wait 11 to 12 months,You need...Application Forms made out in triplicate , 4 references , 3 pictures ,$75 for fingerprinting, $50 for the safety course , and $15 for your driveing records. All paperwork must be typed or in Black ink, if it's not it is thrown out without even being reviewed. Then if you are issued a permit , you must go before a judge for issuance , and all civilian permits are restricted to hunting and target use. In albany they will not issue carry permits 99% of the time. what fun.
     
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    Here in Idaho you just go to the local sheriffs office, show proof of firearms training (military, law enforcement, hunters safety or NRA certified course), fill out the application, get finger printed and wait for the background check. As long as you are "Joe/Jane Citizen" about 30 days later you get your CC license. Its good for four years from the date of issuance. The fee for the original permit is $20.00. The renewal fee is $15.00. The local sheriff may or may not charge extra fees, which sometimes they do but its rarely more than another $10 or $20 dollars. So you are looking at $30 to $40 in all for the first time.

    Once again, I love Idaho!
     
  15. Enginetech88

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    As stated above all depends on the county. Here in Niagara I have been waiting 3.5 months. Already been interviewed now just waiting on the letter. A good friend of mine just got his last month. Took just under 5 months. Josh
     
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    Took 5 months in Warren County....I was expecting 6, so I was ok with it.

    -veggielasagna
     
  17. Speedo66

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    Until people started "breaking balls", it took a lot longer than that.
     
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    Please do.

    My son lives in up state NY wants to get his for his .22 and .357 he left in Ohio but I believe he's waiting till he moves out of Schenectady into a friendlier county.
     
  19. Lake Front

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    A lot of good info and advice.

    With regards to the finger printing, the deputy that completed my prints commented that he will end up going home and telling his son what he did for the day, "took one set of finger prints from the bad guy, and four from the good guy".
     
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    This is why I commute to NY from PA.
     
  21. Oro

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    Tips on speeding up the process:

    (may not apply to you, but maybe others will benefit):

    A while back I applied for a pistol permit in NYC. I expected it to take forever. I think it took about a week. The range/FFL who was awaiting my license to transfer my out-of-state guns to me said it was by far the fastest they had ever seen.

    What I did was submit a ton of background and firearms history as well as past licenses - my Fla. CC license, copy of a course certificate I had to take to get that license, etc., etc. I can only guess that the added paperwork and documentation from other jurisdictions let them go ahead and approve it once the instant check was clean and let them skip the added wait time. I had no "connected" friends or anything helping me, so I have no other explanation.

    Same thing happened when later getting a long gun license in NY. I did all of that and had the license back in four or five days, again shocking the dealer. He actually asked if I had some "special" friends with the city or police! (Nope.)

    This same thing happened in WA when I moved here. I was told to expect 30 days minimum. I did the same thing, and had my cc license in three days.

    When I applied for a C&R, I did the same thing and again got the license in about 1/2 what other people were reporting as the wait time prevailing.

    So, clearly, in at least SOME jurisdictions, it can pay to just document every certification/license/etc. you've had with firearms. I can't say it will help you, but apparently with some authorities it helps them feel more comfortable about reducing the unofficial "hold" time and checks.

    Good luck to you either way.
     
  22. Eagle-101

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    In Genesee County, the judge rarely issues a "protection" permit but restricts it to hunting and target. Oh, by the way, you only get 5 pistols unless you genuflect in front of his bench, then you get an additional 5 as long as he doesn't deem you a nutcase.

    By the way, I have since moved to Texas where i can breathe free...and own as many pistols as my free ass wants to.

    God bless Texas!
     
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    Ulster County, NY: three months, almost to the day. They told me "three to six." I believe that they are not obligated to grant a permit in six months, but they are obligated to explain why if they can't or won't.
     
  24. Speedo66

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    I'm a retired NYS peace officer, had 40 years on the job.

    I applied for my Westchester County civilian permit shortly after retirement, filed a flawless application including the 4 notarized references, and it still took 4 months to get my full carry permit.

    A few days after receiving it I filled out all the papers for a NYC permit, went down there and handed it in in person, and they issued me a NYC unrestricted concealed carry permit on the spot.

    Go figure.
     
  25. eeresident

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    I feel bad for the folks in NY; here in NH your local police department MUST either approve or deny your application (1 page worksheet) within 14 days. You can only be denied for the same reasons that would prevent you from buying a firearm in the first place. Should a department, legally referred to as the issuing authority, take longer and/or deny your application for some other reason, state law actually holds the authority liable for attorney fees should you need to go to court to get your permit.
     
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