NYC's Bloomberg to take handgun control national

[Janitor]

The mayors of Miami & Atlanta should visit Bloomberg and insist he do something about the NYC hoods coming down there and stealing guns.
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[georgeduz]

why dont they have a ban on crime,i think they should ban crime,murder and rape should be on top of there list.

 

[Standing Wolf]

The root cause of violent crime is criminals.

I have no idea what the mayor of New York might be in touch with, but it sure isn't reality.

 

[cracked butt]

Illegal guns?

Mr. Bloomberg, if you want to take an issue that is meaningful and will make America a better place to live, campaign across the country about illegal aliens.

 

[Werewolf]

"He needs to go to Florida and say, 'You sell thousands of guns that end up on our streets every year, and one of them killed a police officer in New York. What are you going to do about that?'"

Hmmm....

OK - lets see if I've got this right - guns are being stolen from law abiding Floridians to supply illegal guns to NYC.

Well then - the answer is obvious:

Sell more guns to Floridians to replace those that were stolen and then charge the cost back to NYC!

 

[Thefabulousfink]

an all-out effort to crack down on illegal gun sales.

He mean's ALL gun sales.

We will not rest until we secure all of the tools we need to protect New Yorkers from the scourge of illegal guns.

Here's an idea close all the tunnels, destroy all the bridges, and order the coast gaurd to fire on any ship aproaching NY Harbor.

That's the only way to do it because most states (like VT and NH) won't put up with some RINO mayor coming over and telling them how to run their state. And even if every responsible American sleeps in on election day and he manages to ban all gun sales in the US, NYC will still have high crime rates. Guns will either come from overseas, or criminals will resort to using knives, clubs, and other weapons. Crime is not a byproduct of the invention of the firearm, and a criminal is still a criminal even without a gun.:banghead:

 

[Rem700SD]

I just hope this guy doesn't have any presidential apirations. I predict a reality check for him if he campaigns outside of NYC.

 

[ArmedBear]

I wonder if he has a clue how stupid the autocratic mayor of New York will look, prancing around blaming everyone ELSE in the country for the crime in his city.

Someone needs to turn him on to Hans Christian Andersen. Obviously, no one read any to him when he was a little brat.

 

[White Horseradish]

Hmm... This oughta be interesting. Just how exactly does he plan to do this?

"Hi, I'm Mayor Bloomberg of NYC and I think you oughta quit buying guns"
"Well, mayor this ain't NY, this here is Arizona, so you can go park your posterior on that cactus over there..."

 

[Thefabulousfink]

And to think Guilliani(sp?) supported this guy. Guilliani was never one to go around blaiming others for his city's problems. While he wasn't exactly pro-gun, he was at least tough on crime, and that is more effective than a boatload of anti-gun legislature(sp).

 

[MarshallDodge]

I just hope this guy doesn't have any presidential apirations. I predict a reality check for him if he campaigns outside of NYC.

Amen!

 

[Master Blaster]

People who live in NYC have a disease, They believe that NewYork City is the most important place in the USA, and the only place that counts. They cant understand how anyone can live anywhere else. Many of them have rarely been outside NYC except on vacation.

They fail to realize that almost all of their fellow Americans, dont share their view.

He will discover this as he tries to take his idea ouside of the 5 Boroughs.

 

[Molon Labe]

What's an "illegal gun"?

 

[Hockeydude]

People who live in NYC have a disease, They believe that NewYork City is the most important place in the USA, and the only place that counts. They cant understand how anyone can live anywhere else. Many of them have rarely been outside NYC except on vacation.

They fail to realize that almost all of their fellow Americans, dont share their view.

He will discover this as he tries to take his idea ouside of the 5 Boroughs.

Wow I didn't know I have a disease! Is there a cure?

Gulliani was a good mayor. He put more cops on the streets and cleaned the place up. But also credit needs to be given to the economic boom of the 90s. A good economy and quality of life means less crime. But with the .com burst and the way things are going with Bush, I wouldn't be surprized if in the next decade NYC turns into another Detroit.

Don't be fooled by how socially liberal New Yorkers are. NYC is the capitalist capital of the world. It's a dog eat dog society. NYC certainly is no Paris.

And I've found NYC to be a bearable, even a fun place to live even though the gun laws are insane. It's funny to go into manhatten and make fun of all the freaks on the train. My family doesn't even own a car. Shoprite is right around the corner and there are plenty of places to shop and eat.

Just giving you guys a perspective on how it's not that bad here. Although I do plan to move away soon to persue my love of firearms. The only thing I've found not possible in NY.

 

[RealGun]

Bloomberg makes it sound like the rest of the country is a suburb of NYC.

 

[pharmer]

It isn't just NYC with the "disease." Back in the '70's I used to take the train from Jersey to the tubes. Under the river to the World Trade Centr. There was a guy I saw everyday, got on the Erie-Lackawanna (now NJT) at the same stop. Never once looked up from his paper-no matter what. Winter, summer, crowds, danger didn't matter. Probably didn't look up from his paper when the building fell on him either. These people are robots, vote for whatever will not cause them to look up from their paper. They sure aren't listening to us. Glad I got out half a lifetime ago, people are aware and alive here, (well most of 'em). Joe

 

[davec]

Has the NRA made any official comment on the mayors remarks?

 

[saddenedcitizen]

Masterblaster is right -

The general ( key word ) opinion of NewYorkers is that the rest of the world would give ANYTHING just to live in New York.
West of the Hudson is barren wilderness full of attacking bands of savages, death, destruction and danger !!
New Your is big (population), crowded, EXPENSIVE (taxes, real estate and everything else) dirty and dangerous.
The upside is a deli around the corner and overpriced 'plays' ??
No Thanks.
Have been there several times which was far too many visits.
Bloomberg is gonna find his 'act' isn't going to play real well with the more sane individuals in this country.
Hockey, you don't have a desease ! Sounds like you may have seen the light. Get out while you can.

 

[Carl N. Brown]

When we have gang violence here in Kingsport Tennessee,
the culprits are usually referred to as the "New York" boys.
Because when arrested, a lot of them are from New York.
We oughta ask when New York will stop exporting its drug
gangsters.

 

[ArmedBear]

Wow I didn't know I have a disease! Is there a cure?

Yeah. Get a car. Take a road trip away from your navel-gazing little hamlet for six weeks. Take a few tours with real estate agents in a few places, and see what sorts of different lifestyles people are willing to pay good money for. Ask them if they would really rather live in Brooklyn.

Don't be a jerk, which probably means, shut up and learn to talk politely to people. It will be really weird at first.

Gulliani was a good mayor. He put more cops on the streets and cleaned the place up. But also credit needs to be given to the economic boom of the 90s. A good economy and quality of life means less crime. But with the .com burst and the way things are going with Bush, I wouldn't be surprized if in the next decade NYC turns into another Detroit.

Or another NYC, circa 20-30 years ago.

Don't be fooled by how socially liberal New Yorkers are. NYC is the capitalist capital of the world. It's a dog eat dog society. NYC certainly is no Paris.

No one's fooled. It's generally assumed -- rightly or wrongly -- that most New Yorkers would sell their children for the right price.

And I've found NYC to be a bearable, even a fun place to live even though the gun laws are insane. It's funny to go into manhatten and make fun of all the freaks on the train.

Whoopee!!

My family doesn't even own a car. Shoprite is right around the corner and there are plenty of places to shop and eat.

Contrary to popular belief, most Americans don't have cars because they are somehow forced to. They like to get out a bit. And also contrary to popular belief, many people, especially in the South and West, actually like their lives to consist of something more than shopping and eating. Note the popularity of outdoor sports, arts, crafts, hobbies, etc. Hence the desire for things like garages, which are rooms attached to houses, designed for storing cars, but often used to store backpacks, mountain bikes, surfboard, skiis, etc., and for projects like building furniture or hot rods, and as amateur artists' studios.

Just giving you guys a perspective on how it's not that bad here. Although I do plan to move away soon to persue my love of firearms. The only thing I've found not possible in NY.

There are lots of things not possible in NY, despite the excellent shopping and eating opportunities.

I'm not telling you not to like it. It's just funny how many New Yorkers are unaware of the opportunity costs of their lifestyles, simply because they haven't entertained a lot of alternative ideas.

People don't buy cars and live in diverse places around the US because they HAVE to. Many of them really WANT to.

You'd be hard-pressed to find a San Diegan who would rather live in NYC, I can guarantee you. But you won't have to look far to find a former New Yorker living here.

 

[Igloodude]

Here's an idea close all the tunnels, destroy all the bridges, and order the coast gaurd to fire on any ship aproaching NY Harbor.

That's the only way to do it because most states (like VT and NH) won't put up with some RINO mayor coming over and telling them how to run their state. And even if every responsible American sleeps in on election day and he manages to ban all gun sales in the US, NYC will still have high crime rates. Guns will either come from overseas, or criminals will resort to using knives, clubs, and other weapons. Crime is not a byproduct of the invention of the firearm, and a criminal is still a criminal even without a gun.:banghead:

We don't put up with RINO mayors telling us how to run our state any more than we put up with Democrat mayors (Boston's Menino) telling us how to run our state.

But this is starting to be a familiar refrain over the past 3-4 months: "Our crime problem is caused by other places that don't ban guns!" I wonder if anti-gunners are deliberately trying to stir the pot in places that are ordinarily very pro-gun?

 

[Hockeydude]

Wow ArmedBear, such harshness.

I'm not the ignorant New Yorker you assume I am. The yuppies that sit in starbucks discussing how they are more cultured than everyone and how great socialism in Europe is aren't my type of people. I'm for of a do it yourself type of person. I love going fishing and mushroom/berry picking in the forest. And this week I just helped my dad build a new kitchen.

I don't appreciate the socialist wasteland NYC has become. But at the same time see nothing wrong with watching a broadway play or shoping at macys. And no, I'm not in it for the bleeched jeans and fancy haircuts. I know theres more to life.

Just don't go insulting all New Yorkers. There are plenty of good people here. It would be wrong for me to call all country folk redneck bible thumping idiots wouldn't it?

 

[Herself]

Edited: One way to read Hockeydude's statement imples:
[So] if one is not a New Yorker, one is "country folk?" [Oooooo-kay.]

[Sorry; haven't been interested in The City since Edwin H. Armstrong was lawyered to death there.]

Other folks have suggested I was too quick to judge. Okay; I'll wait and see.

--Herself

 

[Guyon]

From what I read, Hockeydude has behaved politely. He was never a jerk, and he never implied that all non-NYC people are "country folk." Are you people reading the same posts I am? Sure can't say other folks in this thread *have* behaved politely.

This from a hunting, fishing, kayaking, hiking, camping, gun-toting, Alabama-raised (town of 200) fellow who tends not to pre-judge folks because of where they live. I visited the city for the first time last year. In addition to the Manhattan socialites whose territory stops at Martha's Vineyard, there are plenty of good people in NYC.

 

[ArmedBear]

Hockeydude, my apologies.

But you don't seem to be afflicted with the disease you claimed.