Charles S
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O.K. guys-talk me in or out of 10mm
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LITTLE_BILL
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Oh, Come On....
OKAY, I CONFESS...IT WAS ME!!
BUT, UMM..THE DEVIL MADE ME DO IT!
SORRY, I'M NEW AND DIDN'T THINK TO SEE IF THIS WAS AN OLD OR CLOSED THREAD...MAYBE EVERYONE COULD JUST TURN THEIR HEADS AND WE'LL PRETEND THIS NEVER HAPPENED!
OKAY, I CONFESS...IT WAS ME!!
BUT, UMM..THE DEVIL MADE ME DO IT!
SORRY, I'M NEW AND DIDN'T THINK TO SEE IF THIS WAS AN OLD OR CLOSED THREAD...MAYBE EVERYONE COULD JUST TURN THEIR HEADS AND WE'LL PRETEND THIS NEVER HAPPENED!
the pistolero
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It's fine, really, but lose the all caps.
Charles, what 10mm pistols do you have? I have a Kimber Stainless Target II and will be adding a Dan Wesson Razorback to my stable in a few months.
Beagle-zebub
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I looked at the data on the Hodgdon website, and it didn't seem like there was much of a performance advantage over .40 S&W. I kept going back and forth between the data on the two cartridges, and the numbers didn't get any more different. What's up with that? (Not a rhetorical question.)
Charles S
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S&W 610 (my favorite) and a S&W 1076. I am currently having a 10mm upper built for a full size from of a 1911.
Liability and very conservative loading data.
With the right loads the 10 mm can easily push a 180 gr bullet to 1300 FPS or a 200 gr bullet to 1250 fps a 40 S&W will not come close to those numbers in those bullet weights.
http://www.doubletapammo.com/php/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=21_25&products_id=36
http://www.doubletapammo.com/php/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=21_25&products_id=40
the pistolero
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Nice. I'd like to do that one day, but I have a few other guns I'd like to get first.
As for handloads, so far I've only been working with 155-grain Hornady XTPs and AA #9 but have gotten very good results with it so far. Everyone says 800X is the best powder for the 10 but that it doesn't meter well at all, and I am still a newcomer to reloading, so I figured I'd get something that did meter well at first -- and AA9 delivers on that front as well.
I have one of the earlier 1911's in 10mm. Actually a Cold Delta Gold Cup, stainless which I tricked out with a beavertail safety, extended slide stop & safety, full length guide rod and cocobolo grips with a King's gun works medallion insert( same as my last name) I also have a 45 in the same configuration, but the 10mm is the most accurate centerfire handgun I have.
At one time in the early '90s I got some factory ammo, cannot remembet the brand, that was too hot. It actually bulged and sometimes split cases just in front of the web. I fired a few rounds and dumped the rest, and have reloaded for it since that happened. I stay away from the hot loads, as I had heard somewhere the frame could be battered, but everything is plenty stout for me. Recoil is not an issue, the grip size and frame handle it well.
At one time in the early '90s I got some factory ammo, cannot remembet the brand, that was too hot. It actually bulged and sometimes split cases just in front of the web. I fired a few rounds and dumped the rest, and have reloaded for it since that happened. I stay away from the hot loads, as I had heard somewhere the frame could be battered, but everything is plenty stout for me. Recoil is not an issue, the grip size and frame handle it well.
Scorpiusdeus
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I've heard rumors that Bruce Gray is trying to make a 10Mm conversion out of the Sig P220. Any one heard how that's coming along?
I don't do Glocks. They just don't feel right, and the S&W 10mm are hard to find here in CA and maybe not even "approved".
I don't do Glocks. They just don't feel right, and the S&W 10mm are hard to find here in CA and maybe not even "approved".
LITTLE_BILL
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Glock or no Glock..
Before I bought mine...I couldn't stand shooting the glocks. Just like you said, "they just didn't feel right". Then, by chance, I came across a good deal on a New In Box G29. For some reason, The 29 felt so much different...not sure why, but it did. My brother has a couple of glocks. The 17 & the 20, if I remember right, and i still don't like those, but I absolutely love mine. I'm also looking into getting another one or two that fire the same cartridge, as i've become fond of the 10mm round. Guess I'll have to do some shopping. you know, isn't it funny how picky we avid shooters are about buying guns??? every time my wife points this out...all I have to do is nod toward the PILE of shoes in the closet!!!!
Before I bought mine...I couldn't stand shooting the glocks. Just like you said, "they just didn't feel right". Then, by chance, I came across a good deal on a New In Box G29. For some reason, The 29 felt so much different...not sure why, but it did. My brother has a couple of glocks. The 17 & the 20, if I remember right, and i still don't like those, but I absolutely love mine. I'm also looking into getting another one or two that fire the same cartridge, as i've become fond of the 10mm round. Guess I'll have to do some shopping. you know, isn't it funny how picky we avid shooters are about buying guns??? every time my wife points this out...all I have to do is nod toward the PILE of shoes in the closet!!!!
I have not read all of the responding posts, so I am responding only to the original post. I carried a G29 for a while, and liked it very much. I got into a situation of having to liquidate some guns, however, so it went away. Mine had been purchased pre-owned, and it had aftermarket sights that were not my cup of tea, so I decided I would not miss it so much, and could always get another. I kept the accessories, and a cache of 10mm ammo, in anticipation of another G29, when the time is right. They are good, size/power-efficient little pistols.
the pistolero
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I must admit I'd be a little leery of the shorter-barreled 10mm pistols, if only because of the corresponding velocity loss and increased recoil. I'd think a Glock 20 or Dan Wesson Commander Classic Bobtail would be a good CCW choice, though.
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Quote: I've heard rumors that Bruce Gray is trying to make a 10Mm conversion out of the Sig P220. Any one heard how that's coming along?
I don't do Glocks. They just don't feel right, and the S&W 10mm are hard to find here in CA and maybe not even "approved".
I would ditto the witness comment. I recently got my 10mm and found the recoil to be much tamer and controllable than the glock 29. (not to mention much cheaper)
just my two cents.
I don't do Glocks. They just don't feel right, and the S&W 10mm are hard to find here in CA and maybe not even "approved".
I would ditto the witness comment. I recently got my 10mm and found the recoil to be much tamer and controllable than the glock 29. (not to mention much cheaper)
just my two cents.
hankdatank1362
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I'd go so far as to say that it is the best auto handgun cartridge avaiable today. Since you handload, ammo cost won't be bad at all.
I don't know if someone said it already, but if you life the GLOCK 20, I'd be thinking about getting an aftermarket barrel... something with a fully supported chamber. Just for peace of mind.
I don't know if someone said it already, but if you life the GLOCK 20, I'd be thinking about getting an aftermarket barrel... something with a fully supported chamber. Just for peace of mind.
Dgindlesperger
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the 220 to 10mm conversion would be interesting as the shell itself is longer. So what would be need to make sure Mag fits the frame 
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It was my understanding that 10mm and .45 ACP both had a 1.250" OAL specification - is this not the case?
mpmarty
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max length for the 10mm is 1.260.
TNT.45
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10mm are here to stay. Ammo is $250-$300 per 1,000. Thats on par with .45 and .357 sig. So dont let people talk you out of owning one.
I think it will continue to gain popularity in the States as people learn about its benifits. The C model Glocks are nice as well as the S&W models.
I think it will continue to gain popularity in the States as people learn about its benifits. The C model Glocks are nice as well as the S&W models.
Northalius
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Hankdatank,
I believe Glock has made their gen. 3 Glock barrels more supported than the gen. 1 and 2 barrels. At least someone saw a difference in their Glock 23. I'm sure I've read someone saying the same about their G20 (10mm). Will have to look around GlockTalk.com and see, I guess.
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TNT.45,
Yeah, I checked out the bulk packs for 10mm at Georgia Arms, and saw $137 for a pack 500 10mm rounds. Around $274 for 1000 rounds!
I'm getting myself a Glock 20 for CCW. I'll get the Glock 29 after that, for backup.
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LITTLE BILL,
Nice posts! The 10mm is truly impressive, and it seems to only be growing more in the U.S., thankfully! This'll hopefully bring down the price of 10mm ammo, even though it's not TOO bad right now!
You know a round is good for self defense, when it's also used for medium sized game hunting!
Yes, this seems to be an old thread, but people happen upon it from time to time, by finding it through the search engine, and want to reply! Like myself, for instance!
I'm guessing the same reason for you commenting so late, BILL?
I believe Glock has made their gen. 3 Glock barrels more supported than the gen. 1 and 2 barrels. At least someone saw a difference in their Glock 23. I'm sure I've read someone saying the same about their G20 (10mm). Will have to look around GlockTalk.com and see, I guess.
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TNT.45,
Yeah, I checked out the bulk packs for 10mm at Georgia Arms, and saw $137 for a pack 500 10mm rounds. Around $274 for 1000 rounds!
I'm getting myself a Glock 20 for CCW. I'll get the Glock 29 after that, for backup.
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LITTLE BILL,
Nice posts! The 10mm is truly impressive, and it seems to only be growing more in the U.S., thankfully! This'll hopefully bring down the price of 10mm ammo, even though it's not TOO bad right now!
You know a round is good for self defense, when it's also used for medium sized game hunting!
Yes, this seems to be an old thread, but people happen upon it from time to time, by finding it through the search engine, and want to reply! Like myself, for instance!
I'm guessing the same reason for you commenting so late, BILL?
rockinrussky
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I just shot my friend's G20 at the range yesterday, it was quite fun. The round was exceptionally accurate and the recoil really wasn't bad at all. IMO the G20 itself is not very practical for conceal and carry but would be great as home defense/hunting. If only glock came out with a compact frame for the 10
aka108
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If you want a 10mm, get it. If you reload don't worry about ammo costs since the cost per round of most stuff doesn't vary by 2 cents out of the press.
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