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Obama AR-15

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by YoungGun, Oct 7, 2008.

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  1. YoungGun

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    O$&#@ Ar-15

    :confused:OK, so I am considering buying a new AR-15. But I'm wondering if I should wait? What are the odds of prices going up if O$&#@is elected? Also what are you guy/gals views on the odds of O$&#@ trying to enact the "assault"weapons ban again?
     
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  2. Code3GT

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    search function...and IBTL in 3...2...1...
     
  3. ugaarguy

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    The man's voting record speaks for itself. Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst.
     
  4. YoungGun

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    Code3GT

    What do you mean?
     
  5. EdLaver

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    You know...I've got something to say about this. We all have known for sometime that the probability of another ban was eminent so everyone should either have gotten all the firearms they wanted or are in the process to over the next several months. If you have everything you need, magazines and ammo included, then why worry about a ban. They arent going to come and take them from you if you already own it. I dont understand why people complain about a ban, if you have it already you have nothing to fear. Me personally I have one more firearm to get and then stock up on some ammo. My last firearm I am going to purchase is a DPMS 6.5 Creedmoor and then I'm done forever.
     
  6. Golden Hound

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    I know politics aren't supposed to be discussed here but this situation of everyone getting very worked up over EBRs and possible new restrictions under an Obama presidency, I think it's a pretty important issue and one that is on a different level of relevance to this forum than typical partisan bickering. It's become a major issue, even to the point of possibly driving up prices on weapons which might fall under a potential ban, and it's obviously on a lot of people's minds. So, with that said, I think discussions of this topic should be allowed, up to a point. Just my 2 cents.
     
  7. MAX100

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    The president can't pass a law by himself. He also needs a majority vote in congress. As long as the Republicans and a few Dems do their part it won't happen. With all of the sale outs we have in congress now I guess anything is possible. All of their votes are up for sale to the highest bidder.

    Now is a good time to buy. If a Dem does get into office there will be a mad buying rush driving prices up on some items.


    GC
     
  8. ziggy222

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    if i see one more thing about dems and reps and gun bans i'm going to throw all my guns in a river and step in front of a train.um after i vote for obama lol.those politicians are to busy lining their pockets with their cut of 700billion right now to care one way or another about guns.you want a prediction?it will be a joint effort to take our guns just like last time.regan started the biggest antigun bill in history of the u.s. then bush added a bunch of guns to that bill.i found that out while i was researching my cetme rifle which is one of the guns bush put on it.then clinton a democrat signed the bill that 2 republicans had already written up.my cetme was legalized during the clinton administration again and then bush jr let the bill run out.these people that say if you don't vote for their preferred candidate that you will lose your guns would gladly support them even if they took our guns away anyway.after all its the one they support.i'll be so glad when this elections over so we can go on with our lives.
     
  9. NWCP

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    If you want an AR15 buy one now. Not because of the pending election, but because you want it. Prices are going up over time not due to politics, but due to many other factors. A weak dollar had driven up a lot of gun prices and raw materials are more expensive as is labor costs so domestic firearms have seen price hikes as well. The biggest hit has been in the cost of ammo. You want one go for it. They aren't going to get any cheaper regardless who's elected. I'm not going to start hoarding ammo either. I like to have 500-1000 rounds of my favorites on hand anyway and I don't see 'them' banning specific calibers. An exception might be the 50cal BMG, or Barrett's .461. A typical knee jerk feel good move for the clowns we put in office is to restrict certain types of 'cop killer', or armor piercing rounds. JMHO.
     
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    even if obama does re enact the assault weapons ban i doubt he will do it in the beginning of his term. from the sounds of things he has alot of other things weighing more heavily in his agenda. it would be my guess we would still have a year or so after he is elected to buy whatever is missing from your collection. but as people have posted before i am anticipating price increases in assault rifles and ammo so buy sooner rather then later.
     
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    I agree smarshooter .45, its not the #1 dem priority, however it is definately on the To Do List


    younggun, no offense to you, there's just been a flood of the same question lately and most have been locked b/c of the political factor. I'd say if you can afford it, do it. I'm building mine as soon as possible
     
  12. barry960

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    This whole line of thinking really depresses me, but I always keep it in the back of my mind that gun grabbers will rear their ugly heads again. For a few years, I actually believed the whole 'debate' on gun bans was won, at least it sure seems like way more Americans are appreciative of our right to bear arms since 9-11-01, and I never get 'into it' with hoplophobes anymore. Even people in the political spectrum of the usual gun grabbers have softened on their stances in my experiences. That being said, they could just be lying in wait and building a war chest for a time when the political tides are going their way. Yes, sometimes there are Republicans who are on the wrong side of this, but never as deviantly and as venomously as the other side of the aisle and their contributors(*Soros, cough)
     
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    AR15's are as cheap as they have been in a long while. Even if the political situation were not so bleak can you think of a better time to get what you want? I remember before the 94 AWB I bought a few select pieces AK's, Daewoos, Uzi's, AR15's and a mint FNC. Six months into the ban I could name my price.
    My first AR was a Colt SP1 new in box it was a whopping $400 of 1984 cash. The guy did throw in three new spare mags on the deal and two boxs of ammo.
     
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    Yeah, OK!!:D
     
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    Obama = venomous snake in the grass! if he wins, he will try to get rid of as many guns as he can. i do not think he will win. but then i said the same thing about Clinton. you know what they say, "there is a sucker born every minute, and when they turn 18, they can vote!"
     
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    Question. Will an assault weapon ban pass muster, considering Heller's ruling regarding "common use"? I would certainly say AR's are in common use, with the number that are out there.
     
  17. Shear_stress

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    Not sure what you're worried about. You currently live in a state that still has an active "assault weapons" ban on the books. You can sorta get a new AR in California, provided it's built on an "off list lower" (i.e. no Colts) and has a fixed ten round magazine or a "Monster Man" stock. In other words, you're already living in the future.
     
  18. AndyC

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    So are pistols which hold more than 10 rounds in the mag - didn't do those fellers in DC much good :(
     
  19. gunNoob

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    If another AWB passed would prices at gun stores drop drastically right before the ban?
     
  20. buzz_knox

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    Prices would skyrocket as people stocked up, just like last time.
     
  21. gunNoob

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    Yeah.. Wish it was the opposite :p
     
  22. everallm

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    Most of the people who foist this line on us tend be be those who want to sell you something.

    How many, "I heard this at a gun show, gun shop, a guy I was buying a rifle from, on the Internet, jerky stall etc etc etc " threads have we had since before the primaries...?

    "We're running out of 5.56/7.62x39/30-06/8mm Mauser, quick buy and stockpile, oh yeah it just happens I have some that is surplus to my requirements....."

    "Day one Obama's gonna sign an AWB into law, better buy an AR now....What, were from, well I know a guy....."

    "I'm telling ya, no magazines over 10 rounds, better grandfather NOW, a guy I was chatting to on ARFCOM told me. He's got stock he doesn't need any more...."


    Doesn't mean something couldn't happen but I kinda think who ever gets in is going to be a little more worried about the economy don't you?
     
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  23. buzz_knox

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    Rational people had better things to worry about than gun control in 1934, 1968, 1986, 1989, 1990, 1993 and 1994. The irrational people didn't, and thus they achieved a victory for gun control in each of those years. They narrowly avoided victory in 2004, when they had absolutely ever reason NOT to push for an AWB renewal and did anyway.

    With the economy in trouble and the promised social programs dead on arrival as a result, gun control will be an easy bone to throw to the "center" constituency. Gun control isn't on the minds of the population, so they won't have the energy or focus needed to fight it.

    Besides, with the economy as it is, who do you think has the money to fight for their side: the tine percentage of gunowners who actually contribute to the cause or George Soros (who is likely making millions right now off the crisis)?
     
  24. offthepaper

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    Buy cheap(er)
    stack deep(er) :scrutiny:
     
  25. Z-Michigan

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    Let's see - Heller hinged on whether a firearm is in common use. Obama's campaign is bringing people out of the woodwork to buy EBR's in fear of a new ban. Sounds to me like Obama may be accidentally ensuring the continued legality of EBR's!

    Oh, and IBTL.
     
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