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Odd 1848 Baby Dragoon imported by Taylors

Discussion in 'Blackpowder' started by Gaucho Gringo, Apr 9, 2010.

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  1. Gaucho Gringo

    Gaucho Gringo Member

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    Hi

    I am looking at a nice Baby Dragoon for sale on Auction Arms. It is an early model imported Taylors & Co. It is old because the directions in the picture look to be made with a typewriter. Another odd thing that caught my attention is the cylinder lock holes are oval like a Walker. I have never seen another Baby Dragoon like this. Could anyone tell me who made this gun? Here it is http://www.auctionarms.com/Search/DisplayItem.cfm?ItemNum=9645278

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  2. bprevolver

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    Baby Dragoons

    On the original Colt Baby Dragoons the cylinder stops were first round, then oval, the rectangular. Another interesting fact is that the early Baby Dragoons had a shorter frame than on the later production revolvers. The replica manufacturers produced interesting variations of these differences. Uberti made Baby Dragoons have oval cylinder stops and a longer frame. Measured from the face of the flash guard to the front of the frame where barrel attaches, it is 1 5/8". The Armi San Marco made Baby Dragoons measure 1 1/2" and have rectangular cylinder stops. This is just the opposite of the original Colts. Uberti and ASM are the only manufacturers of the Baby Dragoon that I am aware of. If there are others I would apprciated the input.
    Colt 2nd & 3rd Generation Baby Dragoons have the long frame probably because their frames were obtained from Uberti.
     
  3. Tommygunn

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    If my eyes still work that appears to be a Uberti. Maybe "left in the white," or the bluing/color casehardening has severely worn .... maybe stainless steel if Uberti made the model in SS.
     
  4. StrawHat

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    I agree with Tommygunn, in the third photo down between the 31 and black is what appears to be the Uberti trademark.
     
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    If you look at the third photo down you can see a Uberti trade mark on the bottom side of the barrel. It also appears to be identical to my 2004 Uberti made 49'er, other than finish. The smooth cylinder is different.
     
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    Plain cardboard box with plain paper label, no date code or proof marks on the frame, barrel or cylinder. Only markings are SN on frame & Caliber & BP only markings under the barrel with what may be a Uberti logo. Kit gun?
     
  7. Loosenock

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    I agree with the Uberti logo, I vote for stainless. Very cool pocket revolver. I have a Uberti 1849 but it has engraved cylinder and rectangular cylinder stops.

    'Loose
     
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    I think so. I have stripped my 49'er to defarb and when ready for re-blue the steel looks like stainless. It's been on the bench here for several months and no rust. In fact I have several pieces of Italian steel in the raw that have been on the bench for months and not a speck of rust.

    This Ethan Allen has been in the raw for the past eight months or better, part of that time in my unheated shop, no rust.
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