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Officer shoots, kills suspect first night on duty

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  1. Desertdog

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    Officer shoots, kills suspect first night on duty
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    Officer shoots, kills suspect first night on duty

    Walking just a few blocks from where his brother Matthew was killed the night before, Paul Albrecht says the whole thing was a blur.

    "When they told him to step out of the vehicle, the other officer gave me my information. I didn't even get a chance to grab it and I heard the gunshot," Paul says.

    Two more gunshots followed, then Paul saw what had happened.

    "After I heard the last two gunshots, the cop picked me up and I was walking over to the squad car and I looked over and I saw him there motionless, and I tried to tell him I loved him before... but he was already... it was too late," he added.

    Matthew's family says he was wanted on grand theft auto charges.

    Officer Eric Coutts, a five year veteran, asked Matthew to get out of the car.

    "In the same movement as he was getting out of the vehicle, he pointed a handgun at officer Coutts' head," says Sgt. Kerry Fuller of the Tucson Police Department.

    Paul says he never saw his brother draw a weapon, but TPD says Coutts' partner that night, officer Eric Morales, did, and that's why he shot Albrecht.

    Both Coutts and Morales fired one more shot each because, they say, Albrecht wouldn't drop his gun.

    Officer Morales had just started his training.

    "That was his first night. It was quite a night," Fuller says.

    Matthew's mother, Pamela Seaton, heard about the incident the next morning. She believes TPD used excessive force.

    "He could have accidentally just rolled around from the pain that he was suffering from the one shot and went near the gun with no intentions of going near the gun," Seaton says.

    In the car, investigators later found a backpack containing ammunition, marijuana, drug paraphernalia and scales, police said.

    The Tucson Police Department is investigating the shooting to determine if it was justified.

    Albrecht's family says they want to hold Matthew's funeral as soon as possible.
     
  2. Cacique500

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    :rolleyes: That makes no sense whatsoever. Good job by the rookie.
     
  3. Nick1911

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    :scrutiny:

    I guess something like that must be so emotional that logic goes out the window. [​IMG]
     
  4. migoi

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    Possibly true...

    but I don't think the police officers should be forced into the gamble that this is what was happening, the stakes were a bit too high for the police officers.

    migoi
     
  5. Standing Wolf

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    Well, yeah, but he was a good boy who was trying to turn his life around, and if mean old society had just given him his seventeenth second chance...
     
  6. dinosaur

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    I have no use for reporters but I sometimes wonder if they have their own version of "Choir Practice". "Didja see the quote I got from the dead kid's relative? I win the stupidest statement of the week pool!"
     
  7. Steve in PA

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    Good job by the rookie.
     
  8. WT

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    Sounds like a good shoot.
     
  9. bakert

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    Our Chief of Police who is black by the way spoke on the local TV news about the multiple shots fired by Police in the shooting of a black suspect some time ago that activists questioned. His answer was that the Louiville police dept policy was to keep shooting as long as the suspect moved. Nationwide through the years there have been numerous mortally wounded suspects that have still lived long enough to still kill a Police officer.
     
  10. Missashot

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    While I would hate to have to make the decision to take a life (even if it is a lower life), I do admire the law enforcement who have to make that decision every day. I think the rookie did a good job on that one. I just hope that the family of this guy (who was such an upstanding citizen) will let it go.
     
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    I went to the Community Police Academy in Seattle (many departments run things like this as a PR move). We got to try out the old version of their video shoot/don't shoot training thing, with the Glock style light gun and interactive video scenarios.

    In the cases where shooting was called for, there wasn't a single time when an attacker with a gun didn't get at least one shot off, even if they'd been shot several times themselves already.

    Guess they were trying to make a point in their training.
     
  12. Bopleo

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    Better the dirt bag than the cop.
     
  13. robert garner

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    Good on the
    Rookie; Hope he retires,without another incident!
    But with the Judicial system turning out scum by the bucket;
    well don't be the blissninny!
     
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    This sucks for the LEO, but it sounds like a clean shoot.
     
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    What a way to begin your carreer. Hope the Officer is ok. :(
     
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    Good shoot, hope the officer is doing okay.
     
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    +1, Chipper.

    I'm 1 month in myself. That's gotta be a rough first night.
     
  18. Checkman

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    Jeez his first night on the job. That's like the cop who has to shoot somebody his last night on the job. So far I've been lucky. Been doing this job for several years now. I hope my last day is as uuneventful as my first.
     
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    ""He could have accidentally just rolled around from the pain that he was suffering from the one shot and went near the gun with no intentions of going near the gun," Seaton says. "

    Yup. But once you start that ball rolling, you can't pick and chose the consequences of your actions. He chose to draw, (wrong choice, wonder if there is any suicide by cop here?) and what followed followed.

    Mother probably thought he should be allowed to pick up the HG, point at the cop who is pointing at him, then they can discuss what to do next? I'm pretty sure I've seen that 1000 times in the movies ....
     
  20. rock jock

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    I've never unsderstood the utter stupidity of criminals. What do they think will happen if they point a gun at a cop......or a THR member for that matter?
     
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    Another one bites the dust!
     
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    Glad this officer is on my city's Department! Sounds liike a good shoot.
     
  23. NineseveN

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    I don't think they stop to think at all, which is the root of all their problems.
     
  24. ruger270man

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    that was the most poorly written article I've ever read..
     
  25. GRB

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    Yeah it sure was an example of poor writing skills but, it apparently also was a fine example of good moves on the part of the rookie and his senior partner.

    All the best, GB
     
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