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OK... I know... But for $195...?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by SaxonPig, Sep 17, 2011.

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  1. SaxonPig

    SaxonPig Member

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    Been looking for a 32-20 for a couple years. Wanted one to shoot and play with so I wanted a cheap one, not some collector grade piece. Someone pointed me to this one. An Army Special (becomes the Official Police Model) made in 1934 someone cut the barrel to 3” and maybe refinished it. I have a set of Colt stocks in the parts bin and it’s what I wanted. At $195 + $30 shipped to me on my C&R I couldn’t walk away.

    Now I need to find some dies.

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    PS: I think I know why the barrel was cut down. In searching for a 32-20 I found a huge number of them with bulged barrels. Both Colts and S&Ws. No idea why this caliber would be more prone to this sort of damage but that's what I found. A bulged barrel means it was fired while obstructed but again, no idea why the 32-20 would be more susceptible to this.
     
  2. Deaf Smith

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    Looks pretty good to me!

    Great shooter.

    Deaf
     
  3. savit260

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    I"d be ALL OVER that little Colt for $195!! My old Army Special is one of my favorites, and a chopped 3" sure looks sweet to me.
     
  4. tekarra

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    That is a good looking little rascal, you did well.
     
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    Sweet. I'd love one like that along with a nice .32 break top someday. Glad it ended up in a good home.
     
  6. MMCSRET

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    The story goes in "Coltland" that the ringed or bulged barrel was from shooting the High Velocity 80 grain rifle ammunition in revolvers when it was specifically advised against. RCMODEL, here on THR, has spoken of it in the past. I have 4 Colts ranging from 1907 to 1922 and they are all original and evidently never fired the HV round as the barrels are all true, worn but no rings.
    Then again, maybe it was oldfuff, or maybe both that spoke of the ringed barrels.
     
  7. Walkalong

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    Ringed (bulged) barrels normally come from firing another round after a squib. Blows it out, but bulges the barrel in front of where the first one was stuck.
     
  8. vanfunk

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    Nice! Me likey, and would have made the deal in a second. One problemo- there were no Army Specials made in 1934. Is the date a typo?

    Thanks!

    vanfunk
     
  9. vanfunk

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    By the way, is that a Kittery TP tag on her? :)
     
  10. Dr.Rob

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    Lucky dog! I'd be all over that, maybe even cut it back another inch!

    Neat old piece for sure.
     
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    Hello friends and neighbors // Nice save/snag for a great price, 3" seems about perfect.

    I hope the GS did a good job with the front sight,

    That $225.00 shipped got my wallet out for an 1917 manuf. S&W 1905 4th change. (plus $20.00 ffl). I bought it to practice gun smithing with an older but working revolver. Nickled poorly, cut down, front sight slightly askew but so tight and true I did not want to mess with it.

    Hope your turns out to be a straight shooter.
     
  12. The Lone Haranguer

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    And cut away the front of the trigger guard, and round-butt it ... :evil:
     
  13. SaxonPig

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    OK, the barrel clearly says Army Special. The serial is 589000 which according to my DOM book by RL Wilson (is he out of prison yet?) makes it 1934. If the AS was out of print by then perhaps the barrel was swapped from an AS onto an OP frame? makes me wonder if the gun even started out as a 32? Perhaps the cylinder was also swapped?
     
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    Was the OP built on exactly the same .41 caliber frame as the AS?
    If not there might be a way to measure the difference.

    All in all for the price, if it works I'd still be smiling.
     
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    Looks great for $195!
     
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    Looks like a KTP tag to me. I never find anything cool like that when I stop in there.
     
  17. savit260

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    With the ecxeption of some transitional 1926-ish Army Specials, the only real difference is the top strap is more rounded and has a narrower sight groove on the Army special vs. an angled/beveled top strap edges on the Official Police with a wider sight groove and wider front sight. Otherwise, they are the same.


    This link has the pic of what most Army Special top straps look like (exception for transitional ones) Note the very narrow sight groove opening at the rear, and gentle rounding on either side along the length of the sight groove
    http://www.coltautos.com/DA/ArmySpecial/armyspecialci_320458.htm


    The O.P. would also have serrations all along the top portion on either side of the sight groove to cut down glare.
     
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    I'd of bit that in a second. Good Buy.
     
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    savit260// Now that you point it out I see the shiny top strap on the A.S. (never used by the Army) very nice catch.
     
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    Even a S&W fan like me would have picked that one up.
     
  21. rdrancher

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    Nice find! Let me know if you want to give up the grips. :D
     
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    that is exactly the kind of gun I look for

    a great addition to your amazing collection
     
  23. SaxonPig

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    There's another just like it (not cut) on GunBroker within a few hundred in serial and it also says Army Special on the barrel. Maybe they were using up barrels in stock for the 32-20 so the Army Special model technically continued until they were used up (whenever that was)? Learn something new every day.
     
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    I'd have got it too. Nice gun for a nice price.
     
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    SaxonPig

    Nice aquisition for the moey. I have also been looking for a .32-20 to play with, but all the ones I have found are typically 3 to 4 times what you paid for your Army Special.
     
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