I lament the extinction of Colt handguns.

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I am old enough to recall when gun shops actually had new Cold handguns for sale. Double action revolvers in various calibers were available, like the Detective Special, the Cobra, the Agent, Police Positive Special and Official Police among others. Of course the 1911 was always present in various configurations as was the Single Action Army.

Now, Colt is pretty much out of the civilian handgun business. Oh, they still make some 1911s and SAAs, but compared to the old days the selection is extremely limited and the prices are very high for what do offer and the DA guns are dead and gone.

Here are a couple of my Colts. Maybe someday Colt will be bought out by someone interested in making guns again.

I bought my first semi-auto handgun in Feb. of 1973. A Gov't Model Series '70. Paid $135 for it. Two years later I added S&W K frame sights (that's what we did back then) and ivory stocks that set me back $32.50. Earlier this year I sent the gun off to have it engraved.


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In the early 1970s I bought a Trooper Mk III 357 Magnum. I think I paid $180 for it new. Never cared for the Mk III action and sold it to purchase a Python. Seems like I paid around $300 for the Python. Added a Diamondback 22. If I recall right the retail was about $245. Both were stolen in 1986. I picked up a 38 D'back and another in 22 on the same day in 1999. Paid $165 for the 38 (showed some holster wear) and $325 for the 22 (looked new).


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Around 1987 or so I spotted a 44 Special Colt SAA at a local dealer. I had wanted a 44 SAA for a long time. I paid $575 for it which I thought was a little high but I wanted it. The 44 Special was seen far less often back then than was the 45 Colt. The ivory stocks were a gift from my wife around 2000.


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Got this Officers Model 38 at a show in 1990. Seller was asking $200 and I didn't quibble. Shows some finish wear but it is smooth as silk.


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This one came off Gunbroker 3 years ago for $375. I love the early target stocks.


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My most recent Colt purchase is this Army Special in 32-20. Serial makes it 1934 which is after the Army Special was supposed to be out of print but apparently some were being made in 32-20 for a few years after the model was officially ended. Barrel is cut to 3" and I'm sure it was cut due to being bulged. About one of four 32-20s I have seen had bulged barrels. No idea why. I figured it was worth the $195 asking price. I call it the "Detective Special on Steroids."


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Very nice, I've only handeled one colt a trooper 357 unfortunately they wouldn't sell.
I've always wanted a colt but whenever i think of the price vs value I always wind up with a Ruger or smith(or Springfield for my 1911)
I do like looking at them though!
 
The Colt DA revolvers had excellent SA triggers but I prefer the S&W for DA shooting. I still have several old Colt OM's in 22 and 38 Special which I do shoot.
 
The "civilian" side of Colt has been up for sale more than once, but price & brand entanglements have killed pending buys.

With that side expanding now, there's less incentive to try to sell it.
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I'm hoping with the AR contract going to Remington maybe they'll start looking into the civilian handgun market a little more.

Yeah, i know, wish in one hand....
 
While not nearly as big as they used to be,Colt is not extinct.I just read that they are expanding to Florida.I miss the d/a revolvers too,luckily they still can be found on the used market at premium prices of course!
 
I'm not sure when it happened, but I don't own a single gun with the name Colt on it anymore. My 1911's and SAA are other brands.

Oh well. Reminds me I need to add one to my list.
 
I agree with Saxon, ...moment of silence for what was.

Anyone ever have any experience with a Colt "Shooting Master"?

I have only recently learned of their existance and believe they are a good candidate for a "Grail Gun", at least for revolvers.

I am humble in my ability to collect, but my classic Colts are off limits for sale or trade.
 
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The Colts were decent guns, but they couldn't stay competitive. Colt also never did anything to keep their guns modern. The Python had that skinny little hand/pawl that wore so quickly that Pythons went out of time every time someone sneezed. They never fixed it. Their out-of-the-box 1911s almost always needed work before they were reliable enough to really bet your life on. I had a friend who had a Gold Cup, and it jammed every now and again. It wasn't until S&W, Beretta and Sig that autos became ultra-reliable. Even 1911 copies like those made by Kimber oftentimes need work before they...well...work.

S&W was determined it was going to build a production gun as good as the Python, and they did that with the 586/686. People with Ransom Rests locked in their Smiths and Pythons and found that Smith lived up to its promise. It even made it look like the Python a little bit, and some folks liked that. (I didn't, but some do.) And Ruger? It didn't need to make any changes to its Security-Six, but they redesigned it to make it heavier and cheaper to make.

The only thing Colt liked to change was its prices, which kept going up. It didn't start making stainless guns until it had to and when they did, the prices were so prohibitive that only the wealthy could afford them. The tooling for all of their guns went back to the 30s and at one point they had members of the United Auto Workers putting them together. The joke was, at the time, that the same goons who were screwing up your cars would now be screwing up your guns!

Anyway, Colt never was really run by people who were competitive. I don't much miss 'em myself.

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I grew up in Connecticut in the 60s. My dad took me to the Colt factory as a young lad. Man, even in a state full of crappy, run-down old factories, that was a really crappy, run-down old factory.

First handgun I ever shot was my dad's WWII Colt 1911. First handgun I ever bought was a Colt 1911. I have had several others since, last one around five years ago, but none of them were terribly impressive as far as 1911s go.

I have owned a bunch of 1911s during my lifetime (now 55 years old) and no longer own a Colt, or have any desire to do so.

It's been a long time since I've been to CT, but I bet that factory still looks as crappy today as it did then. Probably a bit better inside...I hope. Maybe not.
 
I'm probably about to infuriate a couple people... I do that sometimes...
I LOVE my Cobra! I love it so much that it has become my new favorite carry gun. I looked into- and selected- an appropriate .38spl hollow point, a good IWB holster, and (wait for it....) rendered it spurless DAO. :)

It's still not my favorite RANGE gun/ paper puncher, but it's MUCH nicer than the stupid Taurus Ultralight I bought (and sold) years ago. The Cobra's older than I am... and STILL nicer than the Taurus was right out of the box.

ETA: I DO wish somebody would start making them again!
 
If you want the finest snubby made you still have to buy a Colt!I'll take a detective special from any generation over anything made today!
 
Another way to look at it is as I do. I love my King Cobra but would never have paid what it would have cost were they to build them to the aesthetic level of Colt's "golden age".

Extinction? Probably not so much as it is a form of inevitable evolution needed to remain relevant.
 
Going back 30 plus years, my first centerfire handgun was a 6" nickel Python. Cost $375 new. Shot it a lot, but most were 38 wadcutters shot single action at paper. Liked it and could hit with it single action, but never very well double action. It never gave me any trouble, though.

The second CF handgun was a 4" SS Security Six. Cost $235 new. Shot it as well as the Python single-action and much better than the Python double action. Not only that but 125 gr. full-power .357 loads went to the exact same POA as 148 gr. wadcutter target loads. To me, the Ruger was a wonder. Once the Ruger came home, the Python became a safe queen and I lost all interest in Colt revolvers.

Admittedly, I've only run into one handgun since that I could shoot as well as that Ruger; a 6" 686 Power-Port that surpasses the Python's accuracy while mimicing its heft and balance.

Colt revolvers were fine in their day, but belong to another age.
 
I bought my first semi-auto handgun in Feb. of 1973. A Gov't Model Series '70. Paid $135 for it.

Just so you know, adjusted for inflation, your $135 in 1973 is worth about $27 in 2010.

Colt 1911s are expensive because of inflation along with lawyers, liability, government regulation, labor costs, Unions, material costs, and so forth.

Today a Series 70 will set you back around $1,000. In 1973 dollars, that would be around $206 :D

In my opinion, Colt is doing a good job keeping costs down while still delivering a good product that people are willing to buy.
 
Hello friends and neighbors // I remember looking at the Gun Digest 1974 edition, as a teenager, the Colt Python was on the inside back cover. ColtPythonGDbc.jpg

After adding up my (1974) lawn/paper route/other money there was no way I'd be getting one soon. coltpythonad.jpg

Now I have three, a 1978 EXC 6" w/box Colt6inPython1978.jpg ,a 1983 NIB 4" with string tag and my favorite a 1961 VG 4" (my birth year). colt357python.jpg
I understand some of Colt's best Gun Smiths were working on the Pythons in 1961.

I usually like the older Colt Revolvers but the Engraving on the Gov. Model Series 70 make it look outstanding.
 
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Basically this is a lament of the good old days.


Those days, they are gone.

Colt used to make good guns the older the Colt the better built.

Now I consider Colt a brand name. Heck, there are crappy "Colt" knives with the rampaging pony, and they are not made by colt. There are probably Colt underware and Colt socks made in China.
 
My random thoughts why I admit a fondness for the old Colt revolvers and even a few semi auto specimens. There was a period in history where the majority of revolvers that were issued to LE were COLT and for good reason, they were well made and reliable. The Police Positive, Police Positive Special and the Official Police were fixed sight revolvers that were durable, accurate and comfortable for all day holster carry. The .38 Spcl cartridge, while not overly robust, seemed to get the job accomplished.
Quality of part engineering and fitting were outstanding. History has proven that nothing is static (things change) and bad management, labor issues and very strong competition in the civilian handgun market forever changed the Colt organization.
The latest made Colt I own is a 1978 Python in nicklel with a 4" barrel while the oldest Colt I own is a M1908 Vest Pocket .25 made in 1909. Possibly my favorite is a 1924 New Service chambered in .45LC that had the barrel cut down from a 5 1/2" to a 4" sometime in the 50's. The overall balance, trigger pull and accuracy still surprise me when I'm able to find some range time for her.
Yes, I own other old handguns from some of the competition and enjoy them on their own merit but there is just something about those DA Colt revolvers in style, substance and functionality that makes me smile when I hold and shoot em :D
 
I'm glad I have my Pythons because I sure wouldn't want to buy them today.


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This Trooper is holster worn but I love it and it cost a me a mere $200 at a show a couple years back. The Troopers, like all Colts, are now over the moon is asking price.


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This Officers Model is a Frankengun with incorrect barrel and stocks but it has character.


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Does it really matter, though? I mean, like the man said, Colt is just a brand now. The actual original company is long gone. It's another entity completely just using the name. So is Winchester...long gone. The current companies cannot trace their heritage back to the 1800's, rather, only a few years.

I don't think S&W is the same company; aren't they a 'remake', as well? Who is "for real" anymore? Browning? Remington? I'm not sure of any of them.

Was Saab really Saab after GM bought it and changed everything? Naw.

You want a real Colt, then it has to be an old one. You buy current production and you really haven't bought a Colt...you've bought New Colt. A whole other animal. And that's OK, but it will never be a real Colt.

Real Colt and real Winchester are long defunct companies. Once gone, forever gone.
 
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