Old model vaquero and blackhawk convertable

[HOME DEPOT GEORGE]

The LGS has an old model vaquero 45 color case hardened for 389 and an old model blackhawk 357/9mm convertable with the box and all the papers, nothings missing for 569. Are either of these a good deal?

 

[boots]

vaquero seems like a good deal depending on the condition...


i would not pay 569 for the 357/9mm convertable...

imho...

 

[461]

You should be able to get a brand new convertible for less than that.

 

[Jim March]

Depends on whether or not the convertible is a REAL "old model".

OK. "Old Model" in Ruger-ese means "pre-1973".

357Magnum Ruger SAs prior to '73 came on a mid-size frame and left the factory with no transfer bar safety. A few of that series shipped as factory 357/9mm convertibles and it wouldn't surprise me if there was some collector value there. As I'm not a collector, I couldn't say for sure.

In 1973 Ruger revised the entire product line to include transfer-bar safeties, and stopped making mid-frame-size guns. All centerfire Ruger SAs of 357Mag or up horsepower were built on a 44Magnum-class frame, until 2005 when the mid-frame finally came back with the New Vaquero and 50th Anniversary Blackhawk in 357Mag.

Because all Vaqueros are built on the post-1973 action, ALL are considered "New Model" types. Ruger screwed everybody up calling the "New Vaquero" what they did, and that made people say "old model Vaquero" when it's a "new model" action.

Yeah, the whole thing is an Exedrine[tm] headache.

Anyways.

The older, large-frame Vaqueros are properly called plain ol' "Vaquero". Or we'll sometimes say "Old Vaquero". But not "Old Model Vaquero", unless somebody took a pre-'73 Ruger and seriously bastardized it to look like a Vaquero (sigh).

 

[Gator]

Not bad prices on either one. The Vaqueros are substantially stronger than the New Vaqueros, and they are getting harder and harder to find. An old model convertible .357/9mm with the box is a nice find too. I recently bought an old model .45/.45ACP convertible with box for considerably more than $569.

 

[Seafarer12]

I would say they are fair, not great but fair. I would lean more towards the convertable if it is a 3 screw un converted gun.

You should be able to get a brand new convertible for less than that.

I guess you have never owned an old model?

Not bad prices on either one. The Vaqueros are substantially stronger than the New Vaqueros, and they are getting harder and harder to find. An old model convertible .357/9mm with the box is a nice find too. I recently bought an old model .45/.45ACP convertible with box for considerably more than $569.

I would love to have one of those. I have only found one that was reasonable, a steal infact but I was broke. My old model 357 is my favorite pistol.

 

[bannockburn]

The original Vaquero was a great gun, very strong, even chambered for the .44 Magnum. I missed several chances to get one of those, but that's another story. The price on the Vaquero, depending on condition, sounds alright; maybe a little room for negotiation. If the Blackhawk is a pre '73 model, I know I would definitely be interested in it, even at that price.

 

[BlkHawk73]

Mr March beat me to the "old model Vaquero" thing so I won't mention that there's no such thing.
The price on the vaquero...not bad I guess. he price on the OM BH...depends a bit more than just having the box, etc. Correct grips, having the origianl lockwork, all make a difference with these OM"s.