Oldest rifle you currently own!

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Seems I'm going to have to update my first post.

I have a 1944 Mosin Nagant M44. All matching numbers and in excellent shape but nothing else really special about it.
I have a M91/30 Hex, Red Letter, Mosin Nagant Izhevsk built in 1933. It is a Double Date MO 1933/50 “Triangle 25” with all numbers matching. A beautiful example.

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A buddy of mine just gave me a Springfield Trapdoor Model 1884 45/70 built in 1887. It has been long since sporterized for hunting but well done. I cleaned it up just enough to be able to shoot it and it shoots well.

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I have an OLD camel gun that my parents brought back from a trip to Germany years ago I had it dated and appraised the gun was originally a match lock but was updated sometime around the American revolution with a flint lock. They estimated the date of production to be somewhere around the late fourteenth century to the early fifteenth. Needless to say I've never shot it.
 
I have an OLD camel gun that my parents brought back from a trip to Germany years ago I had it dated and appraised the gun was originally a match lock but was updated sometime around the American revolution with a flint lock. They estimated the date of production to be somewhere around the late fourteenth century to the early fifteenth.

I think we have a winner. That dates to about the time firearms were first introduced in Europe. The Arabs had them before that though. They got the idea from the Mongols. That has to be a very early example of the Arab weapons. They actually made some substantial improvements to the designs and powder.

It's easy to see how Genghis Kahn and the Ottomans were able to carve out such large empires and hold them. If you take a sword to a gun fight you aren't likely to do well.

That camel gun has to be worth a fortune. Pictures????
 
I'll post some pics when I get home tonight. The gun has some nice detail as well bone inlay and brass decorations.
 
I forgot to mention that my oldest gun is a 1951 Marlin 15-B, single shot .22. Yeah it's not that old. I was supposed to inherit a Pa. long rifle from my uncle (along with most of his estate) but as usual I got flim flammed right out of it. I'm 3 for 3 on inheritance cases - I've lost every time.
 
My grandmas no-name 22lr. She says "it was old long before I was" she's 78. She can still shoot a tick off of a running dog with it...I am doing good to hit dirt. I once made the mistake of telling her I couldn't hit with it after she "sold" it to me for about 5 times it's worth right before Christmas...Christmas Day she asked about it and I told her I was going hungry if hitting meant eating. She promptly took it outside nailed a empty 20ga hull at 30 yds, same hull at 40, 50, until it went behind a rock at about 70. She asked what the problem was, and to this day I can't tell her. Too bad her health is such that she can't pull even the lightest of triggers now. That 22 was hers from age 6. Being the youngest of 8 and the only girl except for the oldest child. She was often the misfit of the family. So she kept to herself and always came home with a couple catfish, squirrels, or anything else she could contribute to a poor family's dinner table.
 
I guess my actual oldest is my 1933 Winchester Model 61, octagonal barreled .22LR. Second year of production, this is a low, 4-digit serial number rifle. Inherited from my grandfather. It will never leave my hands until it is handed to someone by my estate....
 
My 1917 Erfurt. Beautiful pistol that one must have felt pretty good about on the WWI battlefield. I also have a 1917 Carl Gustav 6.5 x 55 Swedish Mauser and both are fine weapons.
 
Here's a pic of my Camel Gun.

Wow. That's a museum quality gun you have there. Care to tell us what price it was evaluated at? I'd give $2 for it right now cash money. ;) That is one special firearm.
 
1863 Springfield contract rifled musket made by William Muir& Co. Acceptance proof marks but never issued.
1889 Stevens Tip-up Ladies rifle Model 14 in .25 Stevens rimfire.
 
The guy that estimated it offered me four thousand for it. He also said it is hard to price as it would depend on the buyer. Finding the right buyer it could go for as high as 10,000. Collectors are funny in that they pay more than the actual value of the item just to have it. I took it that the value of this gun is somewhere around 4 to 5 thousand.
 
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