One handgun and one long gun for self defense and reliabilty.

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Saiga 12 with some 10 round mags and a couple of 20 round drums. Loaded with slugs and 00 buck.

And my .45 ACP XD

I'd be set for pretty much anything that came my way.
 
I would take my AR and Probably a GLock 17 for what you are describing..\

First ime I ever chose a Glock in one of these types of things!
 
glock 23 and win. 1300 12 guage.

the gp100 .357 and marlin 1894 combo doesn't sound bad either.
 
Carbine & Revolver

I'm kind of likin' Brian's slant on things.

I have a companion set, the Marlin 1894C and his friend, the S&W 586-7.

Wide variety of loads.

Ammo sharing.

The 586 doesn't conceal well, but I don't think that's the issue here.

The 1894C is light for a rifle, and is suitable for everything from social engagements to varmints and game.

Reloads are really the only problem with the lever gun, but I'm working on that. I'll post the solution when it's done and tested.
 
My longgun would be either my Mossy 590 or my Marlin 30/30. I choose either of these because I like the idea of being able to top them off or reload with out messing with magazines and strippers. Me think it would suck being empty while trying to reload. But then I'm getting pretty good with my no4 mk1 SMLE! But I would choose the SKS over it in close in combat when its just me. Give me a few months, and its my RRA A2!

My handgun would be my G37 in 45GAP. I might grab my daughter's G19, but I really like Gaston's bastard child. Second up would be either my G35 or XD40 Tact.

22lr
 
The hardware in this question isn't nearly as important as the software. I would advocate choosing what you have the most experience with, even if it's an "inferior" choice, like a bolt-action military rifle. I think that it would be hard to argue against a pump shotgun for the long gun. They're generally reliable, have great stopping power out to more distance than most of us are likely to need, and they don't freak other people out like an "evil black rifle" can.

My Win. 1200 shotgun has been 100% reliable, and buckshot would be my main choice for close-range defense of hearth and home. If more range was needed, I would switch to slugs. It's going to be hard to explain to a jury why you shot at anything over 100 yards away, so I'd rather avoid/run away and defend myself only if absolutely necessary, which to me means a close threat.

I strongly believe that the long gun should have a two-point carry sling (a web strap should be OK). A slung arm can appear less threatening, yet you retain control over it.

Any quality handgun would serve just fine. I'm thinking a GP100 in a pancake holster, concealed, of course. Again, it's totally reliable, and I'm very comfortable with it.

Simple and reliable.

Regards,
Dirty Bob
 
Nothing else as a Glock for handgun :)
And for Rifle I'll take a Stery AUG with original miltary optic from Swarovski. Very short rifle due to bullpup rifle design.
Very handy in use for short distance and accurate enought to hit a man size target at 300 m.

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Pistol: is there anything more reliable than a Glock?
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definitely not!
 
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From what I currently own:

Glock 17 and Kel-tec 9mm Carbine.

They share ammo and mags so if one goes down I can still use all the ammo I have on me(I can load nearly 200 rounds in the mags I own). I also have a couple 33 round mags. That capacity would be nice in the environment you discribed. While the 9mm is not the best for a long gun, the Kel-tec has proven to be accurate out to 100yards and is reliable.
 
What is with these ancient threads today?

As to the 700+ day old OP:

Beretta 8045 Cougar
Beretta CX3 Storm .45 w/red-dot.
Shared mags/ammo, light, short, scary-looking.

Oh, and a beefy Angus Trim Tac Short Sword for when the ammo runs out...
 
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I don't live in an urban area, but ok. I'd choose my Bushy M4orgery and Beretta 92 9mm. I also like the Winchester '94 30-30 as an alternate rifle choice.
 
Easy decision...

...S&W 627 PC 8 shot .357 mag and scoped CZ 452 22. I can defend and eat just about anywhere in the world. Plus, I can carry enough ammo on my back to last more than year.

Out West
 
I'd go with an M1A SOCOM 16 with an aimpoint and a light, and a 1911. The pistol is irrelevant, because the M1A won't stop shooting.:D

BTW, half of the guns in my safe are shotguns. I just don't think they have sufficient range for anything but raiding a house or home defense.
 
I'd grab what I have.

Long gun is a Saiga 12 guage shotgun with 10 round magazines filled with 00 buckshot.

Handgun is a S&W 915, 3rd gen 9 mm, 15 rounds of hollow point.
 
My choice for long gun is the FN PS90: Short, light, manueverable, fully ambidextrous, easily fired from prone, 50rds in a mag, no recoil, mild muzzle blast, no muzzle flash, flat trajectory, 200m effective range, can be aimed/fired effectively w/one hand.
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Handgun would be the companion FN Five-seveN: Low recoil, flat trajectory, 20rd mag, uses the same ammo as the PS90 so logistics are simplified. I shoot it faster & more accurately than any other handgun (YMMV).
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Tomac
 
I'd take one of my CZ75s and my 12.5" barreled shotgun. Chances are, concealment will be important. The post about the sniper shooting people with rifles proves this. The pistol can be with me at all times, the shotgun can be hidden yet within reach. Should a firearm be needed, the short shotgun will still reach out to 100 yards. It is hard to envision a scenario where you need to shoot further than that. It gives me 5 rounds of slugs. If I am facing more than that, it won't matter what I have because by the time you have shot the 4th person, the 5th one will have shot you already anyway. These will be strictly defensive, and used as a last resort. The short shotgun is easy to maneuver in a vehicle or building as well.

If I were to grab a long gun instead of the shotgun, it would be an AK. Reliable and accurate enough for the distances that would be justified for self defense.
 
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OK, here is the situation, you have to grab ONE handgun and one long arm (shotgun or rifle) and defend your self in an urban setting. You are not going to war, only defending yourself so no need for sniper rifles since you don't want to pick fights. Most of the shooting will probably be done at very close range and lets say only a few bad guys at a time. You don't have to be Rambo but if the gun fails, you will probably be killed. You should be familiar enough with the gun that you can handle it in the dark and under stress. You also need to be 100% confident in it's reliabilty and function.

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I have several AR-15s but the chance of a jam is too great. My SKSs have all been reliable but they are long and heavy and slow to reload. Revolvers are the reliabilty kings but they take way too long to reload unless you are very good with them, which I am not.
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well, truth be told, i have several AR-15's (m4geries, really) topped off with aimpoint red dots and Glock 19's for this very purpose.

my rationale: these are ubiquitous guns, are fairly easy to operate, and parts and ammo would be a little easier to come by than something a little more exotic.

the glock is reliable enough. i'm not too concerned with the AR's - since I probably won't be shooting them full auto in harsh environments (sand, saltwater, mud, snow, three-day-old beer vomit). yes, the direct impingement design means that the AR will **** where it sleeps but for the average joe who won't fire it much and can clean it, this isn't going to be a huge concern.
 
Hard decision:

Glock 19 and the AR-15 with M855, .9mm & 5.56, Reliable & Effective in CQB penetration is the issue.
or
1911 and Remington 870, .45 & Slugs, punch & power
or
S&W 629 & Marlin 1894SS, .44mag combo, The ultimate caliber combo
or
S&W 686 & mini-14, .357mag & .223, until I can get a 1894CS .357 Combo
or
1911 & SA M1A, .45 & 7.62, most powerful Combo next to the .44mag battle tested
or
A mix of any of the above, the combinations are endless.
 
Oh my! --another SHTF thread!!

I lived very near Biloxi MS and sat through Katrina, so I think my choices are "qualified".
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New Orleans area here (westbank). Stayed for the whole thing also.

Anyway, back on topic. I had my M1A and my Springer GI on me the whole time. Next time, I think I'll take my AK74 scince I have a bunch of ammo for it.
That, and my M1A got heavy carrying it around all day. Handgun choice stays the same. My old .45 runs like a scalded dog and Im "good" with it and comfortable with it. That counts for alot IMO. Like someone said earlier, the software is more important than the hardware.
 
BTW, half of the guns in my safe are shotguns. I just don't think they have sufficient range for anything but raiding a house or home defense.
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Ever hear of slugs? :neener:

Those extend your range out to about 100 or so yards; 200 if you practice a lot. Anything further than that is fairly hard to consider self defense under normal circumstances, and in any case the OP asked for close range weapons anyway ;)
 
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