Shhhh...... We don't need people competing for the quality used guns and boosting prices.Out of the 60+ used guns I've bought, I've only gotten 1 that could arguably be called a lemon. Of the 10 or so new guns I've bought, three were lemons requiring warranty work.
I've had some online sales go really well and some less so. There sure is more inventory to select from online. I did get one where I decided exactly what I wanted, and got a decent price online, and all good. Other purchases, just sent one back as a complete fail last week. Still kind of offended they wasted my time shipping it to me, thinking I might keep it. I probably just won't deal with that seller again, but maybe I will - if I want what they have bad enough … lolShhhh...... We don't need people competing for the quality used guns and boosting prices.
Everyone, buy only BRAND NEW black rifles and plastic pistols. Do NOT buy used, especially those old wood and blued steel guns. They are probably crap, they might even be dangerous to shoot.
There is no need for nexus since the US Supreme Court ruling in South Dakota v Wayfair.Sales Tax Nexus in a State can be created by a 3rd Party Shipper. I suspect many retailers are not warehousing all their own stock.
It seems that many (if not most or all) online firearms retailers now charge sales tax where this is applicable. In my neck of the woods, that's brought many online prices close to or equivalent to local prices. Especially for the higher-end guns.
Have Internet retailers felt any effects from this or is it pretty much business as usual?
The State of Michigan thinks 6% is charged on shipping fees:No problem with paying tax, Dogtown, just the part about tax on the SHIPPING CHARGES. When I mail something at the post office or at the UPS Store, I do not pay sales tax on the charges!!!! &%$#$@%^$&%^!!!!!
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Individuals or businesses that sell tangible personal property to the final consumer are required to remit a 6% sales tax on the total price (including shipping and handling charges) of their taxable retail sales to the State of Michigan. Sales of electricity, natural or artificial gas and home heating fuels for residential use are taxed at a 4% rate. Michigan does not allow city or local units to impose sales tax
I live in Arizona and Bud's started collecting state sales tax a couple months ago.
No, it's not an agreement between the state and a company......its the result of South Dakota v Wayfair.Those are agreements between the state and a company. I now have to pay sales tax at Amazon but not Buds.
No, it's not an agreement between the state and a company......its the result of South Dakota v Wayfair.
And Buds will be in hot water pretty soon when the State of Arkansas finds out they aren't collecting Arkansas sales tax: https://www.salestaxinstitute.com/r...ts-economic-and-marketplace-nexus-legislation
and https://www.dfa.arkansas.gov/excise...emote-seller-frequently-asked-questions-faqs/
Yeah, did you read any of the links I posted about South Dakota v Wayfair?I guess all vendors I buy from are in a heap of trouble. Amazon is the only one that collects taxes and Amazon doesn't collect taxes in all states. It made the news here when they came to the agreement to collect.
I guess all vendors I buy from are in a heap of trouble. Amazon is the only one that collects taxes and Amazon doesn't collect taxes in all states. It made the news here when they came to the agreement to collect.
Didn't read anything is this thread?I think the change in collecting sales tax on sales no matter if the seller has a store in your state or not was changed by our great leaders in congress.
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Soon it will be cheaper to have your LGS buy from Bud's or similarUsed to be, without sales tax, buying online might save you some monies. Now, with the tax included for most sites, plus shipping and a higher transfer fee once the gun gets to your FFL, buying locally, if you have a decent LGS makes much more sense and costs no more. I'm lucky, I have two LGSs by me that pretty much match online prices, plus since they make the sale, at least with long guns, the BG check and transfer fee is included. With handguns, while the transfer fee is included, but they do charge for the extra BC. I know not all others here are so lucky. Kinda what keeps online businesses in business.
So you're comparing you buying new guns online versus your LGS selling new..........not exactly fair.What I've purchased online this mongth vs. LGS prices.
GP100 LNIB purchased online for $350, $415 out the door after shipping, tax, and transfer fee. LGS wants $500+ before tax for the same gun.
Remington R51 2nd gen in 98% condition, purchased online for $150, $215 after shipping, tax, and transfer fee. LGS wants $299 before tax for the same gun
Magnum Research Desert Eagle MKI .44 magnum with extra MKXIX slide, MKXIX .50 barrel, and MKXIX .44 barrel for $800, LGS that did transfer said they would price the package at $1800 - $2000 if they had it in the shop.
S&W customized PPC gun online for $299, will be $360 after tax, shipping, and transfer. Best guess is $650-$800 before tax if priced in my LGS judging by similar guns they have sold in the past
I can still find much better prices online even considering tax, transfer, and shipping.
1. You sure as heck can buy a handgun or long gun from outside your state, happens thousands of times per day.I've tried to explain this before and it evidently it didn't get much traction, so I'll try again. The core of the issue is where the "buy" takes place. As I hope most folks understand, unless you have an FFL, you cannot "buy" a handgun from someone outside of your state, or, in most cases, a long gun from a state that is not contiguious to your state.
False.Yes, you may send the person the money, but you are not actually "buying" the item at that point. The actual "buy" only takes place when you take possession of the merchandise.
Well who/which is it?In the case of a firearm that has been transferred from one FFL to another, that means that the accepting FFL isn't the actual "buyer," but rather the "buyer" is the person into whose hands the firearm is being transferred.
Says who?If the FFL were the "buyer," he/she would have to pay sales tax on it! So, when the person who sent the money, finally fills out the paperwork and the background check, etc. is approved, the tax has to be paid at that point. That is why more and more FFL holders are including a copy of the business license with their FFL when they send it out for the firearm you bought six states away.
Well, he isn't the seller, he's only performing the transfer. When I do a transfer I'm not selling a firearm, I'm performing a service.....not taxable in Texas.He/she knows that somebody will have to pay a sales tax somewhere along the line and he/she doesn't want to be the one stuck paying it.
Yeah, horsehockey.In the past, one consequence of all this was that if the federal folks really wanted to shut down a dealer, they would do a very careful audit, and then if they couldn't find any violoations that they could use to shut down the dealer, they would quietly mention to the state tax folks that it appeared that this particular LGS wasn't submitting all of the sales taxes they were supposed to be submitting.
Just stop.The result was often a heafty fine that the LGS couldn't afford to pay, so having lost his/her business licence, he/she were out of business which is what the feds wanted in the first place.