Open carry activist at Dallas shooting

[gspn]

He was marching before any shooting began. So he did not bring a rifle to the exact spot where folks were killed as no one had been killed there at that point.

If you don't understand the point, and want to argue silly stuff like that I have no words for you. Grab the concept.

you do know he was marching to defend the Bill of Rights and the equal enforcement clause of the Bill of Rights. The fight against excessive police violence is a fight to defend the Constitution and democratic rights. Simple thing really.

tipoc

AAAAHAHHAHAHAHAA!!!! BLM marching for the bill of rights!!! AAAHAHAHA!!!!

BLM is a domestic terror organization built on a lie that Michael Brown of Ferguson had his hands up and said "don't shoot". The reality is that the drug using thug Michael Brown hit a police officer and then tried to take his gun. So their very foundation is a lie. To quote you, it's a simple thing really.

Every bit of the faulty narrative they have pushed has been disproven by both the local PD and the Obama Justice Department. All of their story was a lie, designed to stir up peoples emotions.

They are still doing it today. NOBODY has the all the facts on either the MN or the Baton Rouge incidents. So NOBODY has enough info to start calling people racist and marching in the streets. If it's shown that those police acted illegally I'll be in the street calling for reform too...but I won't do it a minute before I have all the facts.

Furthermore, he was marching in a Black Lives Matters protest march. Black Lives matters parades have frequently chanted for the death of cops. Black Lives Matters is in no way a group that supports the Bill of Rights. Several black lives matters supporters have taken those chants to fruition by killing police offers in NYC and Kentucky. Anyone who marches under that banner is viewed through that lens.

Rudy Guliani spoke precisely on the matter, and I think he does a marvelous job of summing it up...so here is a link to that:

http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/rudy-giuliani-black-lives-matter-is-racist-anti-american/

And this is the guy who organized your "bill of rights" march in Dallas. This is him speaking right before it kicked off. Great american patriot this guy is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GD_Mrx2uA0s

 

[Flechette]

Open carry is like exercising any of our other rights in public. They are often criticized but once people realize that you are within your rights it becomes "normal" (except for crazed lefties that want to throw people in prison for "hate speech" and other such nonsense).

I went to the Wyoming State GOP Convention and I'd say 10% of the people there were open carrying. I assume many more were concealed carrying.

No incidents. Secret Service agents were nervous I am sure but nothing happened. Sen. Cruz even attended and mingled with the crowd.

It is amazing how things become civilized when the government treats citizens like adults.

 

[tipoc]

BLM is a domestic terror organization built on a lie that Michael Brown of Ferguson had his hands up and said "don't shoot".

If you don't understand the point and want to argue silly stuff like that I have no words for you. Grab the concept

To play your words back to you. BLM is not an organization. It has not advocated the killing of anyone. It's not responsible for what happened in Dallas.

None of the anti cop killing marches or actions I've attended over the years have I felt the need to open carry at. I think it's a bad idea. But the fella that did was within his rights. Given that the majority of marches of this type are peaceful and legal he made a choice. It was a wrong one. He did not delay the arrest of any shooter by carrying. No more than any of the several hundred people there who ran fearing for their lives. It was a peaceful and legal march till a fella started killing people.

The majority of the actions across the country are legal and peaceful. They need to be that way or folks don't show up.

tipoc

 

[gspn]

To play your words back to you. BLM is not an organization. It has not advocated the killing of anyone. It's not responsible for what happened in Dallas.

Here they are chanting for dead cops:

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Eric-Garner-Manhattan-Dead-Cops-Video-Millions-March-Protest-285805731.html

Here they are chanting to fry them like bacon:

http://dailycaller.com/2015/08/29/black-lives-matter-protesters-chant-pigs-in-a-blanket-fry-em-like-bacon-video/

He did not delay the arrest of any shooter by carrying. No more than any of the several hundred people there who ran fearing for their lives.

tipoc

Maybe you can call the Dallas mayor and tell him that. Go watch his speech where he said they had to chase and catch every one of the people who were in open-carry mode. That takes resources...that is a fact. You don't know how much it slowed down the response. The only thing we know is that it took men out of the response to the primary threat to chase down all these other people when they could have been doing more effective things.

I never said the man didn't have a right to carry. I did criticize his choice to carry at a rally organized by a group who in the view of many (mine included) at best promotes violence against the police, and at worst is a domestic terror organization.

I abhor injustice. That's one of the reasons I volunteered twice to fight for this country. I won't watch quietly as it's torn apart by lies from a group like BLM.

I'm glad the marches you attend are peaceful. That's the best type of march, but I won't ignore the reality displayed by many others.

 

[silicosys4]

I started this thread to talk about open carry perception vs reality now that we have a real life example of open carry at a mass killing event and I'm enjoying the conversation
But
BLM and their politics have no place in this discussion and I'd prefer not to get the thread shut down, thanks

 

[Flfiremedic]

I'll try to respect your request, but BLM is deeply involved in the incident you posted...and the choice for open carry at a highly charged event involving a group with a propensity for violence.
Please note that the Mayor of Dallas is now advocating an end to open carry...for the same reasons several of us objected to the choice to OC at this event.

 

[pockets]

To address the original post; I personally think it is dumb to open carry at a protest of any kind....even more so at one with the potential to erupt.


As far as BLM not being an organization? http://blacklivesmatter.com/about/
If I may quote their website; "Black Lives Matter is a chapter-based national organization working for the validity of Black life."


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