copper4262
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great article - very good idea - i think we can all learn from this one!
OPEN CARRY Front pages of LA Times
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Eightball
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I wrote the reporter, with a basic note of "Thanks for not casting us as loonies."
C'mon guys, give the guy a note of thanks, if nothing else. Show him that we appreciate the fact that we aren't portrayed as loons in his article.
C'mon guys, give the guy a note of thanks, if nothing else. Show him that we appreciate the fact that we aren't portrayed as loons in his article.
Kind of Blued
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Wonderful article. I left a comment. #72 I believe.
"There are children here!"
I wish I could have answered that one...
"There are children here!"
I wish I could have answered that one...
I left a comment, too, which I also thought was #72, but it hasn't come up yet after nearly 45 minutes. They are moderating the comments.
My post was very calm, reasoned and respectful, but I have no idea if it will make it through the moderating process.
My post was very calm, reasoned and respectful, but I have no idea if it will make it through the moderating process.
George C Morrison
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I weighed in a few minutes ago with ,I hope,was a reasoned,low key comment, and thanked the reporter Mr.Riccardi for his fine,balanced work on this article.
It's a major step for the L.A.Times to put out such a lengthy, objective piece on a such a volatile subject on their front page.
Perhaps with Heller looming,corners are being turned.Here's hoping.
It's a major step for the L.A.Times to put out such a lengthy, objective piece on a such a volatile subject on their front page.
Perhaps with Heller looming,corners are being turned.Here's hoping.
M203Sniper
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Hoplophobia; (pronounced [
]); from the Greek hoplon, or weapon, is defined as the "fear of firearms" [1] or alternatively, a fear of weapons in general, and describes a specific phobia.
I learned a new word today. TY
]); from the Greek hoplon, or weapon, is defined as the "fear of firearms" [1] or alternatively, a fear of weapons in general, and describes a specific phobia.I learned a new word today. TY
Bookworm
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Interesting. Where I grew up in NH, it was not unusual to see open carry. That has about disappeared these days however.
While I respect and see the validity of arguments for concealed carry, I do not approve. I believe that if one is armed it should be done openly, and everyone nearby should know that. Historically, that has been the case until the phase within Europe of sword canes, etc. Carrying a concealed weapon was usually associated with a criminal.
Someone brought up Heller. My wish is that the court not only recognizes the right of the individual to defend himself at home with a pistol, but to "bear" it in public, as long as it is openly visible.
While I respect and see the validity of arguments for concealed carry, I do not approve. I believe that if one is armed it should be done openly, and everyone nearby should know that. Historically, that has been the case until the phase within Europe of sword canes, etc. Carrying a concealed weapon was usually associated with a criminal.
Someone brought up Heller. My wish is that the court not only recognizes the right of the individual to defend himself at home with a pistol, but to "bear" it in public, as long as it is openly visible.
WayneConrad
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There is no fundamental difference between self defense and your skin color. You were born with the right to carry both with you to town, to carry both with you proudly wherever you go, and any man who is bothered by your display them is the one that may be faulted. Not you.TAB said:
leadcounsel
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Wow the anti-gun crowd is viciously irrational!
I suggest everyone here post a pro-gun comment on the board. It's easy and no username is required.
I suggest everyone here post a pro-gun comment on the board. It's easy and no username is required.
Bruce333
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If only it was that easy...
oneshooter
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They have aparently stopped printing the comments sent in. The number was at 71 last night, and there is no change today. Mahaps they were getting too many pro and not enough of what they wanted.
Oneshooter
Livin in Texas
Oneshooter
Livin in Texas
My most charitable thought is that the person who is responsible for moderating the comments may have gone home by 10:00 pm PST, and the subsequent comments were posted after that. It would be reasonable that they wouldn't be back at work until perhaps 8:00 am, so I am waiting patiently for my comments and the rest of the comments by the posters here to appear. If nothing happens in the next few hours, then it will be clear that what is going on is not moderation to avoid spam and illegal threats, but rather censorship and spin.
AVESguy
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It was a cool article, however, that thing on his hip on the front photo is certainly not a "Colt Pistol".....or is it just me?
Might be one of them "revolver" thingies we hear so much about....
As to the moronic comments, that's a sign of the times. Just watch any Youtube video and look at the comments. Most people are morons.
Might be one of them "revolver" thingies we hear so much about....
As to the moronic comments, that's a sign of the times. Just watch any Youtube video and look at the comments. Most people are morons.
scrat
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The guy at the starbucks. It looks like a black powder gun. I have 4 of them the holster looks just like the one for my walker.
moe.ron
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I cant believe some of those comments!!
scrat
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I think your right. i submitted two responses yesterday before i started the post. i still have not seen it.
SoCalShooter
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Left some comments, the guy who is not American seems to be the one with irrational fears or at least not enough experience with guns and gun owners. The best thing we can do is leave some good constructive comments.
MarcusWendt
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1) How many criminals would realize that?
2) Is it better to have a handgun unloaded with a mag in a mag holder or to have no gun and at all?
as a CA resident, I'm not happy about it, but you take what you can while you work to change things so we have our rights restored.
For those that think open carry makes you look like a nut and or hurts 'the cause" the same argument can be made for being openly gay. Tattoos? a ethnic minority moving into an all white neighborhood ect.
Back in the day many southerners used to say things like I don't mind coloreds as long as they keep to themselves and their own part of town. should a black person avoid moving into a white neighborhood so as to not upset the status quo or should he exercise his rights as a free American?
By saying open carry makes one look nuts you are guilty of irrational discrimination and bias.
george29
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My letter, I doubt it will get printed, too long
Many of us gun owners are not gun enthusiasts, to people like me, the gun is a tool and no more. In the urban setting it is a deterent to evil, in the non-urban setting it is both a protection against wild critters whose land we have encroached, and doubly serves as a manner to feed my family should the need arise or present itself. Hiking in the deserts and forests, I come upon meth-labs and other illegal activity, in the towns and cities I have a weapon to protect myself as I walk into my empty house, or to convince a car load of gangbangers to seek easier targets for their random violence.
I have carried a weapon either fully concealed or openly since I was 17, that is, for almost 30 years. In that time I have defended more than one person just by my presence and the courage of knowing that I was appropriately able to defend myself. Rarely did I have to display my gun, in fact, I only recall one instance in which I found it necessary to display my weapon, when a woman ran into my Grandma’s house followed closely by her out-of-control husband, he was in his thirties and I was in my late teens, but what stopped him and calmed him down immediately was my Grandpa's Colt .45 tucked in my belt, and it stayed in my belt.
Guns are tools, no more, no less. There are far too many guns in he streets to start a ban now, for only the law-abiding will abide by a gun-ban law. Instead of acting like Ostrich’s, we need to confront reality, and there is no case more real than the sight of a law-abiding well-armed citizen to make some Bandito have a change of heart, for proof, please find me the case of someone being robbed at a gun range or gun show, and for God's sake, if guns were so dangerous, why aren't the gun shows littered with bodies like they are at the "No Gun Zones" we find like at Virginia Tech and Columbine?
I think the story was well written and I commend this paper for being brave to show us what the First Amendment is really about. Thank you L.A TIMES.
Many of us gun owners are not gun enthusiasts, to people like me, the gun is a tool and no more. In the urban setting it is a deterent to evil, in the non-urban setting it is both a protection against wild critters whose land we have encroached, and doubly serves as a manner to feed my family should the need arise or present itself. Hiking in the deserts and forests, I come upon meth-labs and other illegal activity, in the towns and cities I have a weapon to protect myself as I walk into my empty house, or to convince a car load of gangbangers to seek easier targets for their random violence.
I have carried a weapon either fully concealed or openly since I was 17, that is, for almost 30 years. In that time I have defended more than one person just by my presence and the courage of knowing that I was appropriately able to defend myself. Rarely did I have to display my gun, in fact, I only recall one instance in which I found it necessary to display my weapon, when a woman ran into my Grandma’s house followed closely by her out-of-control husband, he was in his thirties and I was in my late teens, but what stopped him and calmed him down immediately was my Grandpa's Colt .45 tucked in my belt, and it stayed in my belt.
Guns are tools, no more, no less. There are far too many guns in he streets to start a ban now, for only the law-abiding will abide by a gun-ban law. Instead of acting like Ostrich’s, we need to confront reality, and there is no case more real than the sight of a law-abiding well-armed citizen to make some Bandito have a change of heart, for proof, please find me the case of someone being robbed at a gun range or gun show, and for God's sake, if guns were so dangerous, why aren't the gun shows littered with bodies like they are at the "No Gun Zones" we find like at Virginia Tech and Columbine?
I think the story was well written and I commend this paper for being brave to show us what the First Amendment is really about. Thank you L.A TIMES.
Treo
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I can't seem to find the comments. Would somebody be kind enough to post a link?
Nolo
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They mentioned RON PAUL!
*faints*
*faints*
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