Open carry simply says leave me alone I don't want to be involved!

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I support loaded discreet carry. I carry my Model 10 in A snap flap, major brand, belt holster. I' m wheelchair bound and the revolver is not hidden and the brown color is discreet. I don't brandish it.

Unarmed Handicapped people are easy targets for cowards.
I feel it's best to show that I will defend my wife, and myself

I'm not spoiling for trouble
Just leave me Alone!
Dave
 
While your situation is different than the majority and everyone is free to their own opinion then I say carry what works best for you.
I personally don't open carry and prefer the element of surprise, I find that to be better than anything else. I like being underestimated. Wearing a gun on the outside for everyone to see in my opinion says, 'take me out first because I'm the brash defender.' If I'm concealed the bad guy has no clue who or where the defender is. I'd rather not have a target on my back from go. I see how some view OC as a deterrent but if the bad guy is armed and competent he can use the element of surprise and take you out b4 you know what hit you because he knew exactly who his threat was.
 
In your situation what you call discreet carry might be the best answer. When in town I usually CC but on occasion have gone in town without bothering to conceal. Most of the time I would prefer any miscreant to not know I was armed.
 
I'm only concerned that an open carried pistol can be traded for $300 of meth. It just makes you more of a target.

I'm hoping that someone local will start open carrying a CZ Tac Sport Orange. In .40, not 'lil 9.
 
I view open carry as a deterrant and have the personal experience to back it up. I work away from home and kept a one bedroom apartment not too far from my job. It was in a not so good part of town. Two near miss scenarios had me looking for a better way to carry. Things happen fast, and wether pocket carry or IWB, your draw is slowed clearing your garments. I started OC because my draw was faster, only by a second or two, but faster enough to save your life.

An unanticipated side effect was that I was given a wide berth. Like the OP said, I showed that I was prepared to defend myself. This reinforced the statement that thugs are looking for an easy target.

Another thing is I carry hot and believe in point and shoot simplicity. DAO, wether a revolver or a semi automatic. No manual safeties. I believe there is no time to load your firearm.
 
Browning said:
I hope you have some retention and hands on skills if someone decides to simply walk up and disarm you to get a free gun.
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No telling what else he has and no one's business. He could be CCW a backup. Let some fool try and grab the gun. Anyone who underestimates a opponent is a fool anyway. And no telling how fast he can pull that gun from the wheel chair. Might even be quicker than many would think.
 
Jeb Stuart said:
No telling what else he has and no one's business. He could be CCW a backup. Let some fool try and grab the gun. Anyone who underestimates a opponent is a fool anyway. And no telling how fast he can pull that gun from the wheel chair. Might even be quicker than many would think.
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Perhaps. Sure. Maybe he does. I wouldn't know.

Criminals are usually pretty stupid. Some of them have more balls than brains. Some have proven that they'll try anyway because the carrier looks soft to them and they have the element of surprise.

https://www.alloutdoor.com/2015/04/21/open-carrier-attacked-wal-mart-carry-openly/

https://gawker.com/open-carrying-guy-has-his-brand-new-pistol-stolen-at-gu-1644022889

You also have fools like this to contend with ...
http://www.tampabay.com/news/public...-at-walmart-attacked-by-vigilante-for/2214432

Despite the image some people are going to go for it anyway and count on a surprise attack and violence of action to carry them through.
 
I’ve never really understood why people care so much about this topic. Sometimes I carry concealed, other times open. I really think the method of carry matters about as much as what caliber you carry, which is very, very, little.

Do what you want, so long as it’s legal, and ignore everyone that thinks they know what’s going to happen in any situation, they can’t predict the future. The simple fact is that are advantages and disadvantages to every carry method, and since we can’t know in advanced which advantages we might need, theirs nothing to do except whatever you feel comfortable with.

Like I said earlier, in all likelihood it want matter anyway.
 
Many of the creatures of Mother Nature have certain warnings. Maybe the bad, stupid guy will grab a live rattlesnake or a gun from a man in a wheel chair. But no matter how stupid, he would have to ask himself. Is this really a good idea.

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I’ve never really understood why people care so much about this topic. Sometimes I carry concealed, other times open. I really think the method of carry matters about as much as what caliber you carry, which is very, very, little.

Do what you want, so long as it’s legal, and ignore everyone that thinks they know what’s going to happen in any situation, they can’t predict the future. The simple fact is that are advantages and disadvantages to every carry method, and since we can’t know in advanced which advantages we might need, theirs nothing to do except whatever you feel comfortable with.

Like I said earlier, in all likelihood it want matter anyway.
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I think it's more a mental exercise with the past experiences of the posters as 'evidence'. That's why there are never any winners in these debates and both sides do what they want.

Pretty harmless stuff.

It depends on what sort of person you are. If you're the kind of guy who lifts weights, has a martial arts background, has taken several pistol classes and you carry concealed and you've run into a few open carriers. Those few open carriers being out of shape physically, wearing Uncle Mikes holsters in the four o'clock position and not blading their body at the check out line at the convience store even though thuggy dudes behind them are laughing and mimicking the action of taking the pistol and the carrier doesn't seem to notice anything then your opinion of open carriers are going to go down.

By the same token maybe you're that out of shape guy sporting the Uncle Mikes gear and you have some training that some of us would only dream of and you clocked those guys the second you walked in because you know those guys because one of them was your cousin and his friends and that was your routine. They clown on you, you clown back. Maybe you got all broken down from getting in a ton of scraps and maybe you have a bit left in you. Maybe the Uncle Mike is the only thing you can afford. Disability only pays for so much and you view Gucci gear as a waste of money.

These are all stupid examples, just saying there are literally millions of ways of viewing interactions and coming to conclusions and providing clichéd reactions as backdrop.
 
ZVP said:
I support loaded discreet carry. I carry my Model 10 in A snap flap, major brand, belt holster. I' m wheelchair bound and the revolver is not hidden and the brown color is discreet. I don't brandish it.

Unarmed Handicapped people are easy targets for cowards.
I feel it's best to show that I will defend my wife, and myself

I'm not spoiling for trouble
Just leave me Alone!
Dave
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Even in a wheelchair I would carry concealed. Any person can be an easy target with open carry just walking around with no handicaps. Even tanks get hit when targeted.

Do yourself and all of us a favor. Get a permit to carry concealed.
 
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The open carry "statement" is open to whatever interpretation the recipient chooses. It's not for me, so I choose not to do it.
 
I strongly suspect that those telling the OP open carry is unwise walk on their hind legs. Having spent some time in a chair. Then a walker and finally graduating to canes, I know how helpless one can feel.

I say do what works and feels right. Don’t give the SOBs a chance in hades, Just send them there
 
frogfurr said:
Open carry in Ohio has been legal for many decades. I have never seen anyone open carry in Ohio.
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When I do OC I’d say 90+% of people never see the gun, unless it’s hunting season then I’m OCing a S&W N frame with a 6” barrel in a full Circle K holster, then it goes down to about 80%.


Anyway, point is just because you haven’t seen them doesn’t mean they aren’t their.
 
If they were there I would have seen them. This is my view on the disadvantages of open carry: I think it is bad for children to see people armed in public. And, after two home robberies, I am not too fond of carrying an expensive gun around to be seen and that could be snatched out of my holster.

I stand to be corrected.
 
frogfurr said:
If they were there I would have seen them. This is my view on the disadvantages of open carry: I think it is bad for children to see people armed in public.
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For what it’s worth, you can’t know you would have seen them, you can think it, and believe it, but at the end of the day you don’t know what you don’t know.
If you’ll OC for about a month you’ll realize just how unobservant people are, obviously their are exceptions but I’ve gone into stores and had conversations with police officers that never looked down and realized I was OCing.

I’m curious as to why you think it’s bad for children to see armed people in public. I’ve never thought about it, but I can’t really think of a real negative to it, nor can I think of a significant positive either...
 
I think we , as legal carriers, have an obligation to set as example for others. A couple of years ago the college town I live close to had an open carry day. Pictures in the local newspaper. Some holstered pistols but mostly AR's carried both being openly carried in hand or carried while slinged.

........and the benefit of this would have been?
 
frogfurr said:
I think we , as legal carriers, have an obligation to set as example for others. A couple of years ago the college town I live close to had an open carry day. Pictures in the local newspaper. Some holstered pistols but mostly AR's carried both being openly carried in hand or carried while slinged.

........and the benefit of this would have been?
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I couldn’t argue with any of the points made or (seemingly) implied in that statement, basically, I agree.

I’m not a guy who open carries regularly, I carry a N-frame a good bit when hunting and it’s a pain to take it off so I open carry it a bit in December and January. Apart from that, my OC is very rare. I did a good bit when I rode a motorcycle a lot, just highly uncomfortable any other way I tried. Anyway, my point is I’m not a big open carry advocate, I do however believe we should have the right if one choses to do so.

But I’m specifically curious about the “I think it is bad for children to see people armed in public” statement. What’s your logic behind that?

Honestly I’m not trying to bait you into an argument, that’s just a point I haven’t heard and would like to. I’m genuinely curious.
 
frogfurr said:
I think we , as legal carriers, have an obligation to set as example for others. A couple of years ago the college town I live close to had an open carry day. Pictures in the local newspaper. Some holstered pistols but mostly AR's carried both being openly carried in hand or carried while slinged.

........and the benefit of this would have been?
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I assume the point of the event was to celebrate and show support for gun rights. Why is it a bad thing to have an open carry event, or for children to see people armed in public? I do not agree with people popping up with ARs and the like in public space unannounced and where it's inappropriate; however, I don't necessarily see a problem with it pre se if done respectfully , safely, and in good taste.

I get the "element of surprise" argument against open carry; however, I do not get why gun owners should otherwise hide the fact that we carry guns from children and the public in general as if it's taboo and should only be done in secret so not to offend those who believe that we shouldn't have that right.
 
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