Opinions on Scooter Libby's Sentence being Commuted

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WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Bush on Monday spared I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby from prison, commuting the former White House aide's 30-month prison term.


A conviction remains on Scooter Libby's record, and he must still pay a $250,000 fine.

The prison time was imposed after a federal court convicted Libby of perjury, obstruction of justice and lying to investigators in the probe of the leak of the name of a CIA operative.

A commutation is distinct from a pardon, which is a complete eradication of a conviction record and makes it the same as if the person has never been convicted.

Bush has only commuted Libby's prison term, which means that the conviction remains on Libby's record and he must still pay a $250,000 fine. He will be on probation for two years.

Commutations are rarely granted, says CNN's chief legal analyst, Jeffrey Toobin. A commutation is a total right of the president and it cannot be challenged by any attorney or court, he said.

It's the fourth time Bush has issued one.

Earlier Monday, a federal appeals court unanimously ruled that Libby could not delay serving his sentence, which would have put Libby just weeks away from surrendering to a prison.

In a written statement commuting the prison sentence, issued hours after Monday's ruling, Bush called the sentence "excessive," and suggested that Libby will pay a big enough price for his conviction. Watch what signal critics say Bush's decision sends »

"The consequences of his felony conviction on his former life as a lawyer, public servant, and private citizen will be long-lasting," he said.


The president, who has been under great pressure to pardon Libby, said Libby was given "a harsh sentence based in part on allegations never presented to the jury."


Libby can still appeal his conviction. And if the appeal fails or is still in process at the end of Bush's term, the president could grant Libby a full pardon.

Libby's conviction is linked to the investigation into the 2003 leak of CIA operative Valerie Plame's identity.

An outraged Joe Wilson, Plame's husband, spoke to CNN shortly after the ruling. Wilson had gone public with allegations that the Bush administration had "twisted" the evidence used to justify the invasion of Iraq, and prosecutors argued that Libby disclosed her employment as part of an effort to discredit him.

"I have nothing to say to Scooter Libby," Wilson said. "I don't owe this administration. They owe my wife and my family an apology for having betrayed her. Scooter Libby is a traitor."

Libby was not accused of disclosing Plame's identity himself. But at trial, special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald told the jury that Libby's actions left "a cloud over the White House" by obstructing the leak probe.

In a statement issued Monday night, Fitzgerald took issue with Bush's description of the sentence as "excessive," saying it was "imposed pursuant to the laws governing sentencings which occur every day throughout this country."

"It is fundamental to the rule of law that all citizens stand before the bar of justice as equals," Fitzgerald said. "That principle guided the judge during both the trial and the sentencing."

Plame had worked in the CIA's counter-proliferation division before the March 2003 invasion. She told a congressional committee in March that her exposure effectively ended her career and endangered "entire networks" of agents overseas.

Her husband said Bush's action today demonstrates that the White House is "corrupt from top to bottom."

Clemency petitions are normally reviewed by the Justice Department, which investigates the case and seeks input from the federal prosecutor who brought the case before issuing a recommendation to the president. A government official said that Bush did not consult with the Justice Department before rendering his decision.

Reaction on Capitol Hill was swift. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-California, said the president had "abandoned all sense of fairness when it comes to justice."

"The president's commutation of Scooter Libby's prison sentence does not serve justice, condones criminal conduct, and is a betrayal of trust of the American people," she said.

One of the few members of the GOP backing Bush, House Republican Whip Roy Blunt of Missouri, said the commutation was "the right thing to do."

"The prison sentence was overly harsh, and the punishment did not fit the crime," Blunt said.

Plame's name became public when Robert Novak named her in his column on July 14, 2003.

Former Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage has admitted he disclosed the information to a reporter. Novak pointed to another "senior administration official" -- Bush political adviser Karl Rove -- as the second source for his column.

No one has been charged with leaking classified information in the case, but a jury found Libby guilty of trying to deceive investigators and a grand jury during the investigation.

Bush was under great pressure to grant a pardon to Libby.

Libby, the former chief of staff to Vice President Dick Cheney, is the highest-ranking White House official ordered to prison since the Iran-Contra affair.

Polls suggest the American public may not be happy with Libby's commutation.

A CNN/Opinion Research Corp. poll taken in March asked if Bush should pardon Libby -- 69 percent said no, 18 percent said yes.


Ted Wells, an attorney for Libby, issued a statement late Monday saying that Libby and his family "wish to express their gratitude for the president's decision."

"We continue to believe in Mr. Libby's innocence," Wells said. "Scooter and his family appreciate the many Americans who have supported them over the last two years."

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Corruption in the system is a little less infuriating when they at least TRY to hide it.
 
Sigh.....another Bush disappointment. Libby should get a full pardon and Bush should blast the Justice Dept. for pursuing a political prosecution.

I am hoping that Bush did this to keep Libby out of jail and will issue a full pardon before he leaves office.
 
Why bother running for office at all if you can't use your power to keep your cronies out of jail?

I think the commutation is a hopeless attempt for Bush tokeep Libby out of the slammer while trying to save political capital by not totally pardoning him. Bush can still claim that he doesn't free criminals, or something along those lines. When his term is almost up, then he'll give a complete pardon (just like Clinton).
 
I find it amusing that democratic leaders are claiming this is a betrayal of American trust and promotes more people to commit the so-called crimes, when three-time convicted child molesters are being let out on parole after a relatively short time in jail, by liberal judges.

This is a relatively white-collar crime, and short of a pardon, this guy's marked for life. He's best off to retire and hide in the mountains or something.
 
sentence

Compare this sentence to what Sandy Berger got for what I consider a much worse crime. Bias? Naaaaaaaa
 
Just Bush sticking up for one of Cheney's loyal lackeys. What I don't understand is why Bush Communed his sentence, but didn't pardon him. If Bush was going to let him off the hook, why not go the whole nine yards?
 
Libby was put on trial for doing nothing, He didn't out her, she was allready outted, so he never should heva been tried in the first place. I feel all politicians do crimes that gain them either money or votes so maybe we should put them all in prison and start over.
 
Libby was convicted of telling falsehoods to help cover up crimes of those above him. He fell on a sword to protect the Vice-President and President. (In this case Vice is an apt description of what the Vice-President did.)

No wonder Bush returned the loyalty to Libby by getting him out of jail free.

These people are corrupt, but then what else is new?
 
If Libby is given a full pardon in the future, how will that affect Libby's 2nd Amendment rights?

Will he be able to buy and own guns? Will Libby have to go through the unavailble process of having his rights reinstated?
 
Libby was put on trial for doing nothing, He didn't out her, she was allready outted, so he never should heva been tried in the first place.

Libby lied to a federal grand jury, In order to protect Cheney. That is not "nothing."
 
Libby lied to federal investigators.

When Clinton did the same thing, everyone in the Republican party wanted to impeach him. Now that its one of their own, the Republicans seem to not care so much any more.

I think what Bush did was very stupid politically. His previous actions have already got the Republican party in trouble for the next election, and this will only make the matter worse. He should have let Scooter go to jail, and pardon him after the elections. Bush is too stupid to even get that right.
 
If Libby is given a full pardon in the future, how will that affect Libby's 2nd Amendment rights?

Will he be able to buy and own guns? Will Libby have to go through the unavailble process of having his rights reinstated?

If Libby is given a full pardon, he would retain all of his Second Amendment rights.
 
Lying

Isn't the crime he is convicted of "Lying"
some of these charges they reach for are BS

They can lie to you, but you can't lie to them?
 
It is the duty of every American to disobey unconstitutional and illegal orders.

If the president asks you to leak a CIA agents name, you are patriotically required to tell him to shove that thought right up his arse.

Scooter Libby, Karl Rove, et al are traitors and should be hanged as such. The entire Bush administration is an embarrassment. Now, they can't even play the incompetent card, as it's painfully obvious that the reason they are failing We The People is because they aren't even trying. The Bush administration has a personal agenda, and don't mind selling out our citizens, soldiers, agents and country to achive their goals.

I don't know exactly how Bush and Cheney will be getting their payouts, but I imagine that it involves funneling funds from Haliburton, Tyson Farms, Marathon Oil, and countless other firms that benefited from the Iraq conflict, and zero border control.


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And oh yeah, lying to a federal commission IS A BIG FREAKING DEAL!

Anyone who thinks otherwise should have no place in society...and damned sure should not be LEADING it!
 
He committed perjury. Whatever one thinks of the Wilsons/Plames (I rate them somewhere between the secretions of festering sores and buckets of tepid vomit), Libby did, it appears, lie to investigators and to at least one grand jury.

He knew better, didn't he?

Many of us bellowed at length that our outrage at Clinton stemmed more from his contempt for the rule of law (i.e., his perjury in the civil matter), and less from his sexual immorality. Well, our disgust at Libby's behavior should be commensurate.
 
Patty Hearst and Marc Rich got Clinton pardons

as well as bank robbers and drug dealers.

http://www.usdoj.gov/opa/pardonchartlst.htm

Libby was the victim of a "gotcha" ....so he probably couldn't remember where he was on the night of June 3rd 1982, but said he was somewhere else. perjury.
A trumped up charge by a witch hunter, This is not like Bill Clinton claiming not to have sex because oral sex "IS" not sex:barf:
 
Frankly I could care less....

Take a look at the d-bags and personal friends that Bill Clinton pardoned in one of his last acts as POTUS

archives.cnn.com/2001/ALLPOLITICS/stories/01/20/clinton.pardon/index.html
 
I find it amusing that democratic leaders are claiming this is a betrayal of American trust...
Isn't that a good thing? I'd actually like to see a lot of wild pardons, some crooked Congressmen getting off scot-free, and a few judges embroiled in sex scandals. Then we can all realize how bad our government is and take away most of their power. ;)
 
Gego

Libby was convicted of telling falsehoods to help cover up crimes of those above him. He fell on a sword to protect the Vice-President and President. (In this case Vice is an apt description of what the Vice-President did.)

I notice that you in no way backed up this absurd claim. So therefore, I shall dismiss it as rambling.

Quote....Libby lied to a federal grand jury, In order to protect Cheney. That is not "nothing."

What "crime" did Cheney commit? provide a source please.

Oh, and Riktoven....Plame's name was "leaked" by Richard Armitage...so, the crime... if there was one... was his, not Cheney's

Always good idea to check your "facts"

If you just want to get in some good-ole fashioned Cheney bashing, go for it, but forgive us for discounting the ravings.
 
Presidents, especially lame duck presidents, do this sort of thing for their friends and supporters. Bush does it, Clinton did it. I suspect if you dig around you could find any president doing it.

Just another example of them looking down from on high and saying "Justice for thee, but not for me."
 
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