Found some discussion at PDO (packing.org) a few days ago about groups in Indiana. Seems there is no focus on RKBA issues with any IN clubs or orgs. I am just posting to sound out THR IN members on the subject.
Focus would be tracking and Lobbying efforts with state senators and reps. Secondary mission would include communication to the various state, county, city gun clubs and other groups who would have concerns. ICLA for example would not be among those I would want to include. There are others more broadly grounded in the realities and constitutional law.
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Below posted by minuteman32 PDO
Letter from my (alleged) U.S. Representative!
Dear Mr. XXXXXXXXX:
Thank you for contacting me regarding H.R. 800, the "Protection of Lawful
Commerce in Arms Act."
H.R. 800 seeks "To prohibit civil liability actions from being brought or
continued against manufacturers, distributors, dealers, or importers of
firearms or ammunition for damages or injunctive or other relief resulting
from the misuse of their products by others." On October 20th, this
legislation passed the House by a vote of 283 to 144 without my support.
I oppose frivolous lawsuits; however, I do not believe that the judicial
branch should be refrained from determining the merits of particular
cases. At a time when more than 30,000 gun deaths occur each year in our
country, I cannot support legislation that deprives gun violence victims
of the right to legal recourse and discourages the adoption of reasonable
safety devices. Additionally, while I believe in the Second Amendment and
feel that the right to bear arms is a fundamental part of American
heritage and culture, I do not believe this right is unqualified.
Statistics indicate that in 2001, 290 Indiana residents died from firearm
homicides, 21 died unintentionally by a firearm, 411 committed suicide
with a firearm and 4 deaths by firearm were ruled undetermined. The
numbers are shocking. Equally devastating is the fact that 59 of these
deaths were children.
Again, thank you for contacting me about this issue. Your interest and
opinion are deeply appreciated and your position highly respected. Best
wishes.
Sincerely,
Julia Carson
Member of Congress
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Bob Crody has run against her for the last 2 or three elections. He just dropped
out due to lack of support funds and the IN republican party. He has run in the past as Libertarian.
This past year my own state rep Lawrence Buell introduced and passed law allowing LEO with the right judge ability to play shrink. (my opinion on Lairds law)
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By minuteman32
.. I would say that we need to organize (ugh, I'm NOT organized)! We could
schedule a meeting locally to see what kind of turn out we'd have. From there,
figure out what the ...say... top 3 most pressing concerns we have (which laws
we want changed, specifically). Have people make lists of who their state &
federal (for continuity) reps/sens, their phone numbers, addresses, emails (my
state sens legislative aide uses HERS, not the sens. to communicate as hers
isn't privey to the press), and schedules as best as can be determined. We
would disseminate a statement to all in attendance @ the meeting stating the
law, and what needs to change. We would then start calling, emailing & visiting
our own rep/sens, as well as others who are interested in the change. The way we
get that info is through networking. That's how I found out about Rep. Ulmer
from northern IN.
.. I guess we could pick a time & place for a meeting and list it here, then
see if anyone responds.
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I guess some of the biggest points I would like to see in Indiana at the state level would include deleting the grandfather clause in state pre-emption. Add something to insure firearms owners and those with carry permits are not focused on by LEO groups (bigger cities). Maybe define carry in state law as openly in view or concealed in the licensing section.
Any other Indiana residents thinking of input please chime in and add to this or PM me.
I wish I had a Jim March or Tim Oliver with us in Indy. I would lie to talk Philip Van Cleave into moving here. He would never get suckered into an Indiana move.
Focus would be tracking and Lobbying efforts with state senators and reps. Secondary mission would include communication to the various state, county, city gun clubs and other groups who would have concerns. ICLA for example would not be among those I would want to include. There are others more broadly grounded in the realities and constitutional law.
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Below posted by minuteman32 PDO
Letter from my (alleged) U.S. Representative!
Dear Mr. XXXXXXXXX:
Thank you for contacting me regarding H.R. 800, the "Protection of Lawful
Commerce in Arms Act."
H.R. 800 seeks "To prohibit civil liability actions from being brought or
continued against manufacturers, distributors, dealers, or importers of
firearms or ammunition for damages or injunctive or other relief resulting
from the misuse of their products by others." On October 20th, this
legislation passed the House by a vote of 283 to 144 without my support.
I oppose frivolous lawsuits; however, I do not believe that the judicial
branch should be refrained from determining the merits of particular
cases. At a time when more than 30,000 gun deaths occur each year in our
country, I cannot support legislation that deprives gun violence victims
of the right to legal recourse and discourages the adoption of reasonable
safety devices. Additionally, while I believe in the Second Amendment and
feel that the right to bear arms is a fundamental part of American
heritage and culture, I do not believe this right is unqualified.
Statistics indicate that in 2001, 290 Indiana residents died from firearm
homicides, 21 died unintentionally by a firearm, 411 committed suicide
with a firearm and 4 deaths by firearm were ruled undetermined. The
numbers are shocking. Equally devastating is the fact that 59 of these
deaths were children.
Again, thank you for contacting me about this issue. Your interest and
opinion are deeply appreciated and your position highly respected. Best
wishes.
Sincerely,
Julia Carson
Member of Congress
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Bob Crody has run against her for the last 2 or three elections. He just dropped
out due to lack of support funds and the IN republican party. He has run in the past as Libertarian.
This past year my own state rep Lawrence Buell introduced and passed law allowing LEO with the right judge ability to play shrink. (my opinion on Lairds law)
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By minuteman32
.. I would say that we need to organize (ugh, I'm NOT organized)! We could
schedule a meeting locally to see what kind of turn out we'd have. From there,
figure out what the ...say... top 3 most pressing concerns we have (which laws
we want changed, specifically). Have people make lists of who their state &
federal (for continuity) reps/sens, their phone numbers, addresses, emails (my
state sens legislative aide uses HERS, not the sens. to communicate as hers
isn't privey to the press), and schedules as best as can be determined. We
would disseminate a statement to all in attendance @ the meeting stating the
law, and what needs to change. We would then start calling, emailing & visiting
our own rep/sens, as well as others who are interested in the change. The way we
get that info is through networking. That's how I found out about Rep. Ulmer
from northern IN.
.. I guess we could pick a time & place for a meeting and list it here, then
see if anyone responds.
..
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I guess some of the biggest points I would like to see in Indiana at the state level would include deleting the grandfather clause in state pre-emption. Add something to insure firearms owners and those with carry permits are not focused on by LEO groups (bigger cities). Maybe define carry in state law as openly in view or concealed in the licensing section.
Any other Indiana residents thinking of input please chime in and add to this or PM me.
I wish I had a Jim March or Tim Oliver with us in Indy. I would lie to talk Philip Van Cleave into moving here. He would never get suckered into an Indiana move.
