Organizing Indiana RKBA

[Big Gay Al]

I'm told, at least in Indianapolis, that while OC may be legal, the police will find a reason to detain you if they see it. Many policemen also may not know it's legal. But other than in a gun shop or range, I have yet to see anyone carrying openly.

I guess if you'd been living in Bloomington during 2000-2001, you might have seen Mr. Hager doing his thing.

When I was growing up in Marion, IN, from time to time, I would see some people packing openly. But I never knew if they had a permit, or were off duty police.

Here in Michigan, we have no law forbidding open carry. However, once you get into a motor vehicle, it is considered concealed, at that point you need a permit.

All things considered, while I am in favor of open carry, I just don't think it's prudent to do so in most places. I would specially recommend against it in large cities.

 

[Big Gay Al]

I wonder if anyone carries openly in Indianapolis? I hate to admit it, but the city is considerably to the Left of the surrounding state. I'm considering it....

--Herself

I wouldn't, unless you have a good lawyer, and a good deal of disposable income.

But that's just my opinion.

 

[IndyChris]

I would also second that, keep it covered in the Metro!

Thanks for the link Al, looks interesting!

 

[Herself]

Shucks, Al, I might even be a good lawyer. --But why would I need one? Might be asked to leave a few places for packin' heat, is all. Might have to talk really slow and nice to cops while keeping my hands in plain sight. Indy leans left compared to the rural areas but it's not as blissninnied as all that.

You grew up in Marion? Don't you fool me; I did some of my growing up there (left in '77), and there ain't no folks like you there. There's not much of anything there. If Harvey's Used Bookstore hadn't had a Science Fiction section, I might not have survived myself. Yeeeeech.

--H

 

[Big Gay Al]

Shucks, Al, I might even be a good lawyer. --But why would I need one? Might be asked to leave a few places for packin' heat, is all. Might have to talk really slow and nice to cops while keeping my hands in plain sight. Indy leans left compared to the rural areas but it's not as blissninnied as all that.

Hopefully, you won't need a lawyer. But as someone else already pointed out, the LEOs are not always totally aware of the law. Indy is no exception. In fact, you could probably fill law books with what some LEOs don't know about the law. Like I said though, I wouldn't do it in a large city. They might try to set an example, depending on which side the local prosecutor's bread is buttered.

You grew up in Marion? Don't you fool me; I did some of my growing up there (left in '77), and there ain't no folks like you there. There's not much of anything there. If Harvey's Used Bookstore hadn't had a Science Fiction section, I might not have survived myself. Yeeeeech.

--H

Well, I was born in Kokomo, but grew up in Marion. Was in class of '74 at Marion High. Came back for a short time in '78 after I left the army, then moved to the Chicago area. Sometimes wish I'd stayed there.

For the most part, the GLBT people try to stay out of sight. I guess they feel that "out of sight" means they won't get picked on. When the Marion Inn, was the Holiday Inn, there was a real TALL bartender there who was pretty obviously gay, but I don't think anyone wanted to mess with him. I'm 6'2" and this guy was taller than me!

I forget the name of the place, but there was a hospital supply store that also sold hobby stuff, it started out in the 1000 or 1100 block of S. Adams, and later moved near to downtown. I want to say around the 400 block of S. Adams St. If it wasn't for that place, and the simulation board games, and later Role-play-games, that they sold, I'd have gone crazy! Unfortunately, I think the place went out of business when the owner died.

Every time I go to visit, the place looks different. Oh well, I guess you can't go home again.

 

[Herself]

With all due respect to Marion -- which I'm sure makes a fine home for some folks -- it is not a home I would care to go home to. None of my family is still there.

The used bookstore and Myer's Radio Supply (very gone now) were my lifelines.

I don't think there's a range there, either! That doesn't mean there wasn't anywhere to shoot. The "bomb shelter"/storm cellar behind my parents house was a great backstop for .22s!

--H

 

[Jayb]

I live in the little town of Swayzee, just west of Marion. There are two members only ranges just outside of Marion, and I have two private places to shoot close to home. If you get in the area, holler, and we'll get some range time.

I've been a ham operator for a long time, and I used to buy all sorts of parts from Myers Radio. The guy who ran it was Don Dilly. He passed away many years ago.

 

[Big Gay Al]

With all due respect to Marion -- which I'm sure makes a fine home for some folks -- it is not a home I would care to go home to. None of my family is still there.

The used bookstore and Myer's Radio Supply (very gone now) were my lifelines.

I don't think there's a range there, either! That doesn't mean there wasn't anywhere to shoot. The "bomb shelter"/stom cellar behind my parents house was a great backstop for .22s!

--H

While I also don't have any family left there, except for an ex-brother-in-law, I have many fond memories of Marion. If it were possible for me to get a job in that area to support myself, I'd move back there in a heart beat.

I find it odd however, that Lansing seems smaller to me than Marion does. Mind you, when I lived there, the population was about 40,000. Yet Lansing, with a population of over 100,000 seems smaller to me, population wise. I guess it's just the way things are so spread out here.

When I lived there, I knew a few of the Local LEOs, and so I had access to their range. It was sort of a throw back to when I was on the PAL sponsered Junior rifle club.

 

[Big Gay Al]

I live in the little town of Swayzee, just west of Marion. There are two members only ranges just outside of Marion, and I have two private places to shoot close to home. If you get in the area, holler, and we'll get some range time.

I've been a ham operator for a long time, and I used to buy all sorts of parts from Myers Radio. The guy who ran it was Don Dilly. He passed away many years ago.

My parents had friends who lived in Swayzee. Unfortunately, my old age is kicking in, and I can't remember their names to save my life. My paternal grandparents lived in Converse, and we used to go visit about once a week. I remember my dad would get about 2.00 worth of gas, which would last for several days. Can't do that anymore. Has to be about $20.00 now.

 

[txgho1911]

From my email

Tomorrow, Wed. the 18th, is the first day to file for political
> office. This includes delegates to the state political conventions. If
> you can get the word out in your e-mails, I think it would be a good
> idea to see how many of us can get elected. This is how we can help get
> control of our political parties.

and from a brizi campaign notice.

The Slating Convention is being held Saturday, January 21st at the Farm Bureau Building at the State Fair Grounds. Volunteers will be asked to arrive at 9:30 am. Precinct Committeemen are permitted to participate as volunteers as well. If you are not a precinct committeeman, this is a great opportunity to watch as our 2006 Republican candidates are slated.

Please RSVP to Megan Robertson at [email protected] or 317-417-4393.

 

[txgho1911]

I have and will OC

I open carry every chance I can. When I am off the clock and the wife is not with me. She fears the possible hassle. I have open carried on the canal.

Looks like a face to face will follow a Utah CHL class at the Eagle Creek range.
Sat 2/4/06
No earlier than 2:30 so the class is not disturbed.
Bring handguns and ammo if you are legal to do so. We might be able to hit the range for a few while we are waiting on the class to finish if it's not done by 2PM.

I am going to the Evansville area to attend a regular meeting for the 2nd Amendment Patriots. I am going to carry every thread we have about organizing printed with me. I expect to collect as much about the group as I can. There is no reason we cannot just join the current distribution and add our own individual efforts to current issues.

On-line renewal is finding resistance in the IN house and senate. In the senate the ISP wants $375,000 to start this and maintain it. This is a very ugly insult to everyone aware of the states office of technology and those who have accessed any on-line licensing process through Access Indiana. In the house a committeeman or chair replaced wording with his own to stipulate federal dollars to pay for it. The ISP was ecstatic and the NRA approved. As if they spoke to anyone in Indiana that wants the fed in even deeper.

Even if you cannot make it on Saturday everyone on the board should be doing something to further our rights restoration. Call Write or even showing up in a reps office to state your concerns. Indiana gun owners may well have a case of apathy in to many areas. To many reasons why we don't have an F- on the brady grade or have similar cary laws to Alaska or lifetime liscensure.

 

[Herself]

Do you have a "snow location" in case the weather isn't cooperative? I like Eagle Creek range but it can get awfully chilly even with four walls and a partial roof!

(I need to remember to wear the really big warm coat so I'll have a toasty place to reload mags in!)

--Herself

 

[El Tejon]

The Indiana State Police want a bribe? Wow, that soooo unusual.

375 K bribe huh? How about we take it from their training and equipment budget!

My parents live in Indianapolis. I open carry (weather dependent) when I go back to see them. Never had a problem even downtown Indy.

Only place I have ever been hassled for carrying a pistol is Wheatfield, Indiana.

 

[txgho1911]

Eagle Creek

There is a classroom there. Outside only for the range use if it isn't tied up by IPD or MCSO.
Don't mean to be so short. Went to work yesterday at 10 AM and just got off a lil while ago. Gnight.

 

[Jayb]

What's the simplest route to Eagle Creek coming south from Kokomo, on US 31? I don't like driving in Indy anyhow, so please don't get me lost.

 

[Herself]

Jay, it starts by going right (West) at I-465, and following 465 over around the corner (avoid 865!) to the exit for Eagle Creek. Gimme a sec and I will look the rest up.

Eagle Creek Range is easy to miss! It's not in the main body pf Eagle Creek Park.


El Tejon: sounds like I need your card should I open-carry, if that's not too outside the bounds to ask about.... Will pm you.


Txgho1911: there's a classroom? And they let non-LEOs use it under some circumstances? Whoa! I never knew!

--Herself

 

[Herself]

Jayb,

Here's the drill: there's no exit right where one would be handiest, so you take 465 around, West and it curves South, to the 71st St. Exit (Exit 21). There's a fork, you keep right. You're going to wind through the freeway on a very long zizag down to 56th.
At 71st, go right (West) to Lafayette Rd.
Turn Left (Southeast) onto Lafayette Rd.
Turn right (West) onto 56th St.
Past the intersection with High School Road, keep an eye out for a rustic park-type type sign on your right. A lane goes back at that point, past a "bark park" on the right and curves left into the range area.

Here's a Mapquest (tm) link. The area of the park East of 465 is where the range is. You'll need to zoom out to see the route.

http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.ad...OpmZnegzV5aB2MvVqGqCiBpwjoaI2E0c6nIIWAk/bGg==

Here is a link to the range website, with a photo of the sign and driving directions.

http://www.ecpr.4t.com/

Hope this helps!
--Herself

 

[Jayb]

that'll work.... thank you ma'am. I'd just hate to think of getting lost and firing three shots in the air......

 

[Jayb]

If there's any interest in it, is there a place on the west side, that those who wanted to could meet for lunch?

Just a thought....

 

[Herself]

Ahh, lunch!

There's pretty much everything down around Lafayette Square, though I haven't been to most of them. Think there's a Pondersa over there, which is generally a choice nobody minds.

Anyone else interested?

--Herself

 

[txgho1911]

I would have to say yes about lunch. If you are picking Ponderosa then how about 12PM?

 

[Jayb]

Sounds good to me. Noon will even give me time to hit the Tipton gun show on the way down.
Geez, what's a better way to spend a Saturday ......gunshow .... lunch with firearms enthusiasts, and then range time to top it off. Now, if only mother nature wakes up properly.......

If we can get an idea of how many are going to be at Ponderosa, whoever gets there first may be able to get some reasonable seating set up. I will be there.

 

[Herself]

Hubby reminds me Ponderosa is on 38th, South of Lafayette Square and a bit West. Still pretty much in the area by Indianapolis standards. We'll attend if we can.

--H

 

[txgho1911]

For lunch sound off

I am including previous posts.
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[Jayb]

I'll be there, and should have 3 folks with me, for a total of 4.