OUCH! "Mexican" Carry a Bad Idea

[luzyfuerza]

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=333&sid=2497970


Police: Man Shoots Self During Robbery
January 16th, 2008 @ 8:32am

KOKOMO, Ind. (AP) - A man accidentally shot himself in the groin as he was robbing a convenience store Tuesday, police said.

A clerk told police a man carrying a semiautomatic handgun entered the Village Pantry demanding cash and a pack of cigarettes. The clerk put the cash in a bag and as she turned to get the cigarettes, she heard the gun discharge.

Police say surveillance video shows the man shooting himself as he placed the gun in the waistband of his pants. The clerk wasn't injured.

A short time later, police found 25-year-old Derrick Kosch at a home with a gunshot wound to his right testicle and lower left leg.

Kosch was released from the hospital Tuesday and booked into the Howard County jail on a charge of armed robbery, criminal recklessness and battery. He is being held on a $100,000 cash bail. A jail official did not know if he had retained an attorney Wednesday.

 

[FieroCDSP]

A jail official did not know if he had retained an attorney Wednesday.

If I just shot myself in my right nut because I'd decided to Mexican carry, I'd be screaming for a doctor, not a lawyer.

 

[The Lone Haranguer]

That is not really "Mexican Carry," at least the one I am familiar with. Although you don't use a holster, you do wear a belt, and put the gun behind your hip. It is not as insecure as it sounds, at least for short distances/durations. The idiot shot himself because in all the ... excitement, he failed to adhere to proper trigger discipline. And he was very lucky not to shoot himself in the femoral artery.

 

[gallo]

I agree with Haranger about Mexican carry. What this guy did was just plain stupid. I think it's called poetic justice.

 

[weisse52]

I wonder if it was a Glock?

 

[The Bushmaster]

Hummm...I carry a S&W Mod 19 with a 2 1/2" barrel at 1:00 in an IWB holster and have for years. The trick to reholstering it is to make sure the hammer is down and you keep your finger off the trigger when returning it to the holster.

You know darned well that he had his finger on the trigger when he returned to his belt. Bang...Ouch...I always thought that "mexican carry" was anytime you put a gun in your waste band without a holster...Learn something new every once in a while around here...

 

[Harley Quinn]

This will give you quite a bit of information on the "Mexican Carry"...

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0BQY/is_2_51/ai_n8591504

Interesting story about making sure the spur is down. If it was a spur for the hammer or the trigger.
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Some handguns carry better this way than others. One fellow thrust a cocked derringer, loaded with a .410 shotshell, inside his waistband. The spur trigger struck the edge of his belt, and the pistol fired, emasculating him. A proper trigger guard, and preferably both a heavy trigger pull and a manual safety, will go far to prevent accidental discharges in Mexican Carry.
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This is what most of you are talking about not "one nut". 410 did the job on all of it I'd think.

 

[Omega]

gunshot wound to his right testicle

Does it mean that he is out of gene pool?

 

[jad0110]

I guess I could make a testicle joke here like I did last time one of these threads popped up .


http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=286438&highlight=boys

Here are some of the classics from that thread:

BBQJOE: "I actually think he was lucky. He might have gone off half cocked."

twenty711: "What a nut! You would think the penal code would have gone soft on him."

Sage of Seattle: "There once was a guy on the ferry
Who, when it comes to the guns, was a cherry
He broke the cardinal rule
And shot a gun near his tool
And wound up using his nuts to parry"

 

[Phydeaux642]

Does it mean that he is out of gene pool?

At least out of the deep end.

Geez, Darwin at work.

___________________

"Phydeaux, bad dog....no biscuit!"

 

[The Bushmaster]

Naw...He probably has his left one still...

 

[Archie]

He's just got talent.

I've carried Mexican carry for years, with DA revolvers, Condition One autopistols and occasionally a SA revolver. I am happy to report no discharges within the confines of my clothing.

Does it mean that he is out of gene pool?

...gunshot wound to his right testicle...

Half way, I'd say.

 

[rcmodel]

Mexican Carry & stuffing a loaded Glock down the front of your baggy pants with your finger on the trigger is not at all the same thing.

Historically, Mexican Carry meant placing a Colt SAA or 1911 in your waistband just behind the right hip. (or left hip if you are left handed.)

It does not mean in your waistband in front, because that would get terribly uncomfortable while setting on a bucking saddle-horse.

With a SAA, the loading gate is opened to keep the gun from falling on down your pants.
It is flipped closed as you draw & cock the gun.

With a 1911, it is just cocked & locked and placed there. It is perfectly secure due to the shape of the gun.

The term originated after the Mexican revolution when civilian handguns were prohibited.
The Mexican cowboys ditched their holsters & belts, and used the "Mexican Carry" in case they came upon Federales intent on enforcing the gun laws.

Without a gun-belt & holster giving them away, they could easily & inconspicuously reach behind their back and drop a sixgun in the sagebrush beside the horse, then come back and get it later when the patrol had left.


rcmodel

 

[NCTexan]

The gun must have had a 'hair trigger'...

 

[AndyC]

Guess he'd better get used to shooting blanks

 

[Just Jim]

Anyway he made a lucky shot, he could never a hit that small a target if he was trying.

jj

 

[Elm Creek Smith]

They're gonna call him "lefty" from now on.

ECS

 

[redbandit98]

well, guess you could say he went down in a ball of fire. haha

 

[Harley Quinn]

This was/is popular for some.

http://www.baramihipgrip.com/

The real thin inside carry holster with a good clip is better, IMHO.

Having it in front, behind/side, or the small of the back, is what I have always thought it ment.

HQ

 

[Harley Quinn]

Again:
HQSome handguns carry better this way than others. One fellow thrust a cocked derringer, loaded with a .410 shotshell, inside his waistband. The spur trigger struck the edge of his belt, and the pistol fired, emasculating him. A proper trigger guard, and preferably both a heavy trigger pull and a manual safety, will go far to prevent accidental discharges in Mexican Carry.

I figure this is the damaged unit for sure. No mas, nada.

 

[The Lone Haranguer]

With a "short-stroke DAO" action (any of them, really, but IMO these are the most susceptible), take care not to snag undergarments, drawstrings, etc. in the trigger guard when "holstering."

 

[brett30030]

He was, of course, shooting ball ammo.

 

[19-3Ben]

It's ok. I heard that the prison needed a soprano in the prison choir. He may just be up to the task.

 

[Boarhunter]

I find great irony in this story.

Back when I was young and virile and immortal, I too was prone to sticking a loaded firearm down the front of my britches when intending to carry a short while. But now that I am 53 years of age, with far less to protect, I would not stick a loaded firearm down the front of my britches for all the money in the world.

Sorta backwards, it seems to me.

Boarhunter

 

[Harley Quinn]

When I worked vice and we were working the ladies of the night we would have our little revolvers in the frontal area with them pointing side ways if the ladies groping you there and found it they hit the bucket for lewd conduct. I am not sure that is the best place for it but it at least got an arrest for your time (while debating money and for what). Sort of like what boarhunter mentions I don't do it now, but it is still close to the frontal area. Might be worse if it hit the femoral. Why no round in the chamber in my Glock.