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Trunk Monkey said:
I wouldn't go so far as to call you a liar but I think you incorrectly interpreted what you saw.
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Well, considering this situation was of utmost interest to me, and I am for the right to bear arms, I’m not sure that I “incorrectly interpreted” it. Believe me, it would have been great to come on here and post the image and say how no one even batted an eye and people were thanking him for the protection he offered. Everyone on here would have piled on how great that was, instead of borderline flaming me. Once again, you are welcome to call me a liar, but the facts are that he freaked people out (this happened in a very wealthy, generally older population neighborhood) and I think that does more harm to his cause than good.
 
Trunk Monkey said:
Surprise is not a defensive tactic. Unless you're a Ninja the criminal typically makes the first move at a time and place of his choosing
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I believe the surprise comes when the bad guy gets shot by the good guy that he didn’t know was armed. Had he known he was armed, he could simply shoot him first, which takes away the element of surprise and defeats the purpose of carrying.
 
crestoncowboy said:
The guy on the sportbike..... Ive been that guy a lot. No amount of tucking a shirt in can keep it down on an R1. If it's not cool enough for my riding jacket and shoulder holster (after going down and having my beretta break my ribs i was hesitant on that too) I usually just took my shirt off and pocket carried.
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Crossplane or 5 valve or? :D Try wearing a shirt long enough to tuck it under your butt and sit on it. It'll print, but no more kiting up of your shirt that way.
 
Sistema1927 said:
Funny how the liberals who don't want to disarm us keep electing people who do.
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Just a coincidence, nothing to see there. Just like when Holder literally said that they needed to brainwash people about how they thought about guns as that coincides with Fast and Furious criminality.....again nothing to see there. :scrutiny:
 
AlexanderA said:
That's the perennial argument in favor of open carry. (It has to be, because open carry puts you at a tactical disadvantage when it comes to self-defense.) I can tell you that where I live, open carrying is worrisome to bystanders. It's a great recruitment tool for the antigunners. So much so, that sometimes I think these open carriers are secretly antigunners conducting a provocative "false flag" operation.
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And saying it is a disadvantage when it comes to self-defense is the perennial argument not to open carry.
I think people give criminals to much credit (not saying there aren't smart criminals, but on the other hand if they were smart, they wouldn't be doing something so stupido_O).

Ever since I became interested in carrying, I've seen this "battle" play out on various forums with neither side "winning" the argument. In the end, people need to figure out what works best for themselves within the bounds of the law where they reside. I personally have carried both ways. 99% of the time I conceal carry because it is more comfortable for me. I'm not going to disparage the way people decide they want to carry their sidearms, as it's a personal choice.
 
Dibbs said:
Gun doesn't bother me too much, folks should just get used to seeing somebody OCing a pistol.
If he came in lugging a large rifle, that would be a little different.

But I find those camo cargo shorts a little disturbing...
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RedlegRick said:
I agree. Shorts and black socks should be a prosecutable offense in any state.
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At least he shaved his legs before going out in public. (Well I think it looks like he shaved his legs).

And I really don't care what other people think about me Open Carrying. We have had Open Carry long enough for the Police / Sheriff / Highway Patrol to be use to it and, as far as I know, I have not caused any pregnant women's water to break and no mass panic.
 
Keith G said:
but the facts are that he freaked people out (this happened in a very wealthy, generally older population neighborhood) and I think that does more harm to his cause than good.
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Which means they probably live in gated communities with their own Police Department or Private Security so they don't feel the need to be armed or experienced being a victim of crime or living in lower & middle-class neighborhoods. Houston, San Antonio and Dallas are unfortunately attracting large numbers out-of-state Liberals and elect liberal representatives so I don't see how the sight of a gun is going to change their already anti-gun attitudes.

(I'm married to a native Texan and have family in Houston and San Antonio. My wife wants to move to Wacko, er Waco).
 
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Sebastian said:
Crossplane or 5 valve or? :D
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Crossplane. 09. And I'll go shirtless, although bees and grasshoppers hurt. 60-65ish degrees I wear a fieldsheer jacket and shoulder holster below 60ish I drive a car. I'm not that dedicated. I only get about 10-15 rides a year sadly.

I'm not sure when open carry was legalized in NC. Ive seen it my whole life that I remember, although in my area being legal has little to do with things. Truck loads of people driving around or atvs on the road are ignored completely.
 
Keith G said:
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I live in a rural community. Hunting, farming, tractors, overalls and firearms are the norm. You go in someone’s house, and more than likely there is an old shotgun by the front and back door. I’ve never seen anyone open carry in town. I would bet that there are concealed firearms on more then a few people, but you’d never know it.


I was visiting a large city, in the wealthiest neighborhood in that city, killing some time at a Barnes and Noble and in walks this guy. It was obvious that everyone in the entire store immediately felt uneasy. Many left.


I immediately understood where the rallies against guns/for gun control come from. Assuming he had the proper license, it is well within his rights to be carrying the way he is. It’s quite possible that many of the ladies and possibly men had never seen a gun in person before that moment, and this guy represents all their fears of firearms. I guess my point is that the old adage of just because you can doesn’t mean you should seems appropriate here. I don’t believe anyone in the room felt safer with him there, quite the opposite. How were they to know he was a “good guy?” I’ve never been a proponent of open carry, and I think this guy is doing more to harm gun rights than if he had simply concealed his firearm. Just my thoughts for the day.
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So this guy is in a store minding his own business and you take a picture and post it on a national forum?

"You don't believe anyone in the room felt safer..." -- so you really have no idea what everyone else was thinking do you? It's amazing you go from what YOU believe people are thinking to making this a problem. Wow.

The only issue I see here is you making a bunch of assumptions about him and everyone in the store and coming to some conclusion not supported by the picture.
 
Not gonna comment on that picture, not enough information for me to have an opinion. Really, it looks mostly fine to me.

I’m against laws that would restrict open carry. But at the same time, I would like people to have the common sense to reserve its use for times, situations, and places where it would be appropriate.

I’ve seen people not do that, solely to show off or snub others, get a rise out of people. I don’t approve of that, but restrictting the rights of others is no answer.

Not saying that’s what’s going on in that photo but Some people just don’t have sense and like to piss others off and be annoying and that the price of living in a free society.
 
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What those of you who don’t think open carry was a good idea are missing is that the liberal left are driving your opinion. Who was scared? Rich, liberal left wing types.

Well, they are also offended by Make America Great Again hats too and insist that it’s a message of racism and hate. So, are you going to not wear your hat because of what they have unilaterally decided? Are you going to cave into their viewpoint just to get along?

How about gender? The left demands that you recognize all of these alternative genders. Are you going to comply so you don’t offend them?

Where does this nonsense stop? We conservatives give in and give in, because if we don’t not only do we catch flak from the liberals, we get it from other (supposed) conservatives! I’m tired of backing down and giving in just because someone with money and a college degree decides their opinions and feelings trump mine!
 
chicharrones said:
A blue city in a purple county. Inside loop 610 is super blue. So far, I've never personally seen civilian OC in Houston, Texas. The place is full of 30.07 signs now.
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Get your nose outta your phone.. :D

I have seen it a few times in HTown and in Woodlands

Given the amount of people taking pictures of gun owners... Now I am curious if there are pictures of me on some discussion board. I do open carry when heading to the range, I'll generally swing into Bucces for some snacks and ice on my way out.
 
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This is an interesting thread. We are generally not accustomed to seeing people carrying and it gets attention quickly. I've seen it occasionally, but not often. In fact, it's rare here in Kansas. When it does occur it rarely generates anything more than a curious glance. That's quite different from the reactions of myself, my wife, and the many other patrons of a restaurant that was robbed by 5 gun-wielding thugs a few years ago. Ill-intent is not hard to spot. If it happens to you, you'll know the difference. The over-reaction from the mere sighting of a hand-gun is laughable and sad; the result of scare-mongering from our media.
 
I didn't read past page two as I couldn't stand it.

Peoples "feelings" are something that needs to be gotten over, post haste, and I believe it will be one way or another. Hopefully it won't take a civil war. As you can see in the media we are reaching a boiling point.

The OP is just one more example of this. The guy in the photo isn't doing the cause a disservice, the OP is.
 
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