Out of the following, which 9mm is potentially the most accurate?

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I am looking for a new 9mm and would like very high machanical accuracy and must be highly shootable and reliable. Please limit responces to the following:

Walther p88 (~900)
Walther p5 (~$750)
Springfield loaded full size 1911 (~$550)
Sig 226
HK p9s (~$900) - this is the double action version

Which is the best deal?

Should I order an STI Tojan 5.0 (~$1100)?

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If it must be within those choices: I'd go with Walther P88, if you can find the gun and afford extra high cap magazine.
If you REALLY want accurate out of box guns, do check out HK P7M8 and Sig P210 (Both +$1200):what:
 
I own a P5 and have also shot the P88. I like the P5 even though it is single stack. (Watch out for P38 mags sold as P5). P88 has the high caps and maybe that is something you should look at.
The Sig 226 is another I have had the good fortune to shoot. It is a honey.
I shot the P5 with the greatest accuracy though. That is my .02 cents.

I have not shot the other choices mentioned.
 
The P9S is one of the most accurate pistols I've ever fired. But, it seems like all of the choices you listed are excellent guns and could provide accuracy, shootability and reliability.
 
Of your options, I only have experience w/ the SA loaded 1911 in 9mm. The one I have access to has bee very reliable, dependable & accurate.
 
I have a P88, a P5, and a P9S. For me the P88 is the most accurate. The P5 is good, but not on the level of the P88 or P9S. I also have a P88 Compact, and while it is not as accurate as the fullsize it is still very accurate. The compact, naturally, is smaller and the grip is not as bulky. If you want an accurate range gun buy the P88 (especially for $900!). If you want a very accurate carry gun pick up the P88 Compact.
 
I'd say one of the wanthers. The design is inherently accurate. the barrel simply doesn't move.
 
You asked for Potential, the 1911's have more potential only because they are easier to upgrade. If I had to pick one of the others it would be the Sig, only because the HK would be hard to find parts for.

As a Trojan owner, I would rather see you buy the SA and upgrade it with fitted match grade barrel and good trigger work. The fit on my trojan is great it's a tight SOB, but the frame is a little rough, the blue job is substandard, and there are machine marks. They obviously spent the money where it counts, but I don't think I would let a gun out of my factory looking like that.

Have you held/shot any of these guns? If the P9 fits you good, or the P88 feels just right, that would outway any advantage the others have IMHO.


David
 
STI Trojans are $922 from Dawson Precision, and will likely outshoot your other listed alternatives (see Stephen Camp's range reports). That would be my pick.
 
STI Trojans are $922 from Dawson Precision, and will likely outshoot your other listed alternatives (see Stephen Camp's range reports). That would be my pick.
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DITTO!!
 
Its not on the list, but a Smith & Wesson 952 Performance Center is the most accurate "out of the box" 9mm Target Pistol I've shot.
 
I actually have a bit of experience with all of the guns you list. All are very nice, and you have a good/eclectic taste in firearms.

I can appreciate that.

Interestingly enough, the most pedestrian one here, the P226 would be my choice for most accurate, and most reliable. All have the potential to shoot well, but Sig seems to consistantly put out a combat grade gun with target grade accuracy.

I am sure you can find examples of each that will out shoot the P226, but your odds of getting a hyper-accurate one out of the box are best with the Sig.

Of course, our guns can out shoot most of us, so just how accurate do you need?
 
As an aside, mechanical accuracy is all well and good, but your ability to shoot well with any of these guns is going to be determined by grip comfort, sights, and trigger. Naturally the STI and Springfield go 1, 2 on best trigger, and they also have great sights. The S&W 952 that Berg01 mentioned also has great sights and a great trigger. Of course, grip comfort is wholly subjective, so you'll have to make that assessment for yourself.

To me, that makes the above-listed guns the natural choices. A P226 or P88 is likely to have great accuracy, but the combat sights and assembly-line trigger pulls are going to handicap you.
 
You didn't list it but the CZ 75B is the most accurate 9mm I own. It eats whatever you feed it and is very reliable. Cost is approx. $400 nib. You can spend more on a 9 mm but,IMHO, you won't get more gun. FWIW.
 
Hmm, since I've started competitive shooting a few years ago I always kept an eye open for what the other shooters were using and never noticed someone shooting a P5 or P88. (On the other hand, I'm the only one I've seen with a G17L ;) ) HK P9s are a bit rare due to they small numbers and high prices, while SIG-Sauer 226s are quite popular (specially with longer barrels, 5.5") as are 1911s in .45 or 9mm.
Out of those you list, I'd take either the 1911 or the P9S.
 
'Most' Walther P series handguns are either collectible, target shooter, or a safe queen. I use my P5 for target shooting only, I wouldn't let it get exposed to competition abuse (holster wear , magazine drop, rolling on the ground, etc).
 
I find that brand biases are...

...usually pretty interesting. Of all the hanguns I own, not one of them is any more inheritently accurate than the other, because they are all of the same relative build quality. They all shoot POA/POI. When they miss the mark - it's because of something I've done - not the pistol.

Buy what floats your boat. That's where you'll find the fun in shooting sports...

MHO / YMMV
 
I am looking for a new 9mm and would like very high machanical accuracy and must be highly shootable and reliable. Please limit responces to the following:

Walther p88 (~900)
Walther p5 (~$750)
Springfield loaded full size 1911 (~$550)
Sig 226
HK p9s (~$900) - this is the double action version

Which is the best deal?

Should I order an STI Tojan 5.0 (~$1100)?
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In theory, I would go with one of the fixed-barrel guns as the most accurate. However, the STI Trojan will have comparable or better accuracy, better sights, and a better trigger, making it easier to exploit the gun's inherent capabilities. Of course, it also costs more than almost all your other choices. I would say the least accurate, on average, of your choices listed would probably be the Springfield, simply because there is so much gun-to-gun variability in their product.
 
I did some more checking...

The walther p88 is the compact version and is about $725, the blueing looked pretty bad but I was very surprised at how light it is. The same store has a p5 for $550. (there are two others at a different store for $675 each) They also had something else that was interesting, a sig 220 9mm.

The springfield I was looking at is a pre-loaded model. I will probably wait for a newer model.

The clerk at the store said that the guns produced by sti are not very good. (?) He said they do awsome work on guns sent to them.

Right now I think I am leaning more toward the 1911 models.
 
The clerk at the store said that the guns produced by sti are not very good. (?) He said they do awsome work on guns sent to them.
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He doesn't know what he's talking about. STI doesn't even work on customer-supplied guns.
 
I wrote that that I was unhappy with the level of finish on my STI Trojan, and I am, but the gun is simply more accurate than anyone who has shot it.
If I had to Pick the gun that would most accurate out of the box, it is the Trojan.

But you asked which is "potentially the most accurate". The Spingfiend has the potential (after you spend $500+ in custom work) in to be more accurate, plus you get to have it done the way you want, rather than STI's meager options list.

It's your money, I'm curious to see where it goes,


David
 
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