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But it's never happened here...

...with that rationale, why buy homeowners' or life insurance...for those of us who have decided to carry a weapon openly or concealed...we know why we do it...there are two basic reasons we're found without one: 1) We are forbidden by law to carry where we go that day and 2) We have made a choice that, for some reason, we will take the chance to go unarmed that day...our choice, our responsibility...
...as long as I'm permitted by law and physically able to make my decisions for myself...I will be armed...I'm not smart enough to divine when I'll need it...and neither is anyone else...this is my choice...
 
sheepdog,

In your sig, it say's "Trouble never makes an appointment...be prepared! "

(ring ring ring)
"Ahem, Excuse me I am, trouble, and I would like to schedule a home invasion. I would like to talk to the person in charge of the Thanksgiving dinner at 123 Any st. Anytown, Usa."

"Just a moment, I will put you in contact. There are actually two, there names are Smith And Wesson. Have a nice day."

Well put. :cool:
 
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Make your choices, I'll make mine. Just don't expect me to agree with you all the time, and I won't expect that of you.

If you need to carry a gun in your home to feel secure, you need to move.
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This thanksgiving, there were guns all over the house. We passed around and compared various guns and holster styles for CC.

The night before, a bunch of us open-carried to a restaurant, just for fun.

Friday after, we went plinking.

God, I love Idaho.
 
I don't expect to ever be attacked while enjoying a family meal, so I go unarmed.

Make your choices, I'll make mine. Just don't expect me to agree with you all the time, and I won't expect that of you.

If you need to carry a gun in your home to feel secure, you need to move.
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Obviously you don't get it. Convincing you otherwise is just about as futile as convincing an anti.

As to OP, not only does he have a RIGHT to carry in his own home, he has a RESPONSIBILITY to protect his guests.
 
Paranoia will annoy ya. :neener:

Seriously, I know this can be a touchy subject, and my views run counter to many on this board, but I really think many who carry all the time, and have this "protect your guests" mentality are using this type of thing as an excuse to carry rather than filling a need.

I think it is more about filling a need to deal with an issue of feelings of inferiority or weakness. Like some fool once wrote how he carried as it was the only way to keep himself under control. What? Pitiful excuse.

Again, I am not an anti, or against carrying. I have a CCP myself. I only carry when I think there is a real risk of needing it. I have had a few times when I wish I was carrying when I wasn't, but guess what, in over 50 yrs on this earth, I am still okay.
 
I think it is more about filling a need to deal with an issue of feelings of inferiority or weakness. Like some fool once wrote how he carried as it was the only way to keep himself under control. What? Pitiful excuse.
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And that guy was someone in this thread?

I mean, I met a 50-year-old guy who really hated African-Americans. You must hate them, too...

I wouldn't bother to carry a full-size pistol to Thanksgiving dinner, particularly since our Thanksgiving dinner companions this year didn't exactly need protecting, but I don't have some problem with someone who carries the thing habitually and doesn't expressly remove the gun from his person for an event.
 
packing heat

Good thread and some outstanding comments.

My brother introduced me to his new Son-In-Law. We shook hands and I stated, "I like your tailor." he looked at me rather strange. He was wearing blue jeans and a short sleeve shirt.

Later - I had several women, Mother-in-Law (my Sistter-in-Law), and my wife out her Son-in-law (ex-Army paratrooper) for carrying concealed 24/7 in home and out. Being a retired US Marine and a firearms instructor, they all started looking for a sympatheic ear. I do not carry in the house (another story). Unfortunately for these women, I said: "Well, at least someone is doing something right for a change!" I told them in no uncertain terms, that this young man was doing it right! If they didn't believe me then they should sgn up for my next firearms class - or take someone else's.

I grew up in an open-carry state and now live in a shall-issue concealed carry state. My former open-carry state has since adopted CCW / CHL but the CCW state I reside in has no options for open carry.

I am a proponent of both forms of carry. I do not advocate some means of state registration for open carry, but in this day and age, with the threats to military, LEO's and security personnel, some form of etiquette needs to be taught to the newbie - and some of the not so-newbies!

Rule #1. NEVER touch your firearm EXCEPT to rest you arm on it or cover it with your arm. If your hand so much as touches the holster or firearm, the wearer is asking for trouble! You ain't John Wayne!
 
I only carry when I think there is a real risk of needing it.
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And when is THAT?

When you take your wife to buy clothes at Lane Bryant?

When you go to class at Virginia Tech?

When you're processing to deploy to Iraq?

Or as in my case, when you're driving from St. Louis to Ft. Knox?

What's it like being able to predict the future?
 
I'm going to get REAL honest here. I carry a gun mostly because: 1) I like guns, have shot handguns for over 40 years, and consider myself EXTREMELY competent with them 2) So competent, that I feel I am an asset to the community WHEN I carry (20 years LE service, and consistently the high shooter where ever I worked) 3) I feel we have to actively exercise our rights, and bearing arms is one of them (I try to exercise all the other rights I can, too, to keep them alive) 4) It's a kind of "in-your-face" statement to the anti-gunners to BE armed (they resent it, but have to accept it because it is the law) . I will readily admit that the LIKELIHOOD that I will ever get in a self defense situation is pretty slim (first, I try to avoid them, and secondly, I do not frequent high risk areas unless I HAVE to). After 30+ years of toting a gun professionally and otherwise, I have not had to shoot anyone. I would have been justified a few times, but managed to disarm the other guys. Another person in the same situation might have shot, and would have been right to do so. The probablity of having to use a gun in self defense may or may not cause one to be armed, or unarmed. BUT, there are many more reasons, all personal, for or against carrying a gun (even at a particular time or place), and they are ALL right, moral, conscientious, or ethical for the individual making the decision .
 
I don't carry at home, even though it's one of the few places in Illinois that I'm allowed to carry. Frankly, I don't carry anything at home. The minute I'm in the door, my keys, wallet & phone are on the counter and off of my person. I just don't like carrying anything but clothes when I'm home. If in the unlikely event that some bad guys come crashing through my door, I can get to a loaded gun in seconds.
 
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And when is THAT?

When you take your wife to buy clothes at Lane Bryant?

When you go to class at Virginia Tech?

When you're processing to deploy to Iraq?

Or as in my case, when you're driving from St. Louis to Ft. Knox?

What's it like being able to predict the future?
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I suppose you never drive, because it might kill you in many ways. You must also carry an emergency breathing system everywhere--who knows when you could be caught in a burning building, or engulfed in toxic fumes. And I suppose also you x-ray all your mail. Bombs and all that. While you're at it, you'd better wear Type III body armor everywhere.

Isn't anyone carrying a small gun giving up some degree of protection? For what? Comfort? Yet we often accept this trade off.

My point being that we should be able to evaluate the risk to our lives rationally. I respect the decision to carry in your own home at all times, and will probably do so myself, when I can. At the moment, I'm willing to forgo that, as dormitories here are far cheaper than any off-campus housing. I consider this a calculated risk.

I'm pretty sure nobody is arguing that they've got the ability to predict the future. What they're arguing is that they can look at the past and note that home invasions in the evening in their neighborhood when the house happens to be obviously packed are highly unlikely. With this in mind, the comfort they and their guests gain by going unarmed is a calculated risk. I don't see what's so unreasonable about this.
 
What they're arguing is that they can look at the past and note that home invasions in the evening in their neighborhood when the house happens to be obviously packed are highly unlikely.
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"Packed" with UNARMED people? What they going to do, bleed on an attacker?

The classrooms at Virginia Tech were "obviously packed" too.
 
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"Packed" with UNARMED people? What they going to do, bleed on an attacker?

The classrooms at Virginia Tech were "obviously packed" too.
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Of course they were. The house where Bruce Pardo went on his rampage was also fairly packed, and is a better example for you to make your case with.

That's not the point, though. You can die of Botulinum poisoning from eating canned food. Again, it's a calculated risk.

This is a bit like stockpiling for TEOTWAWKI. Sure, it may be fun to discuss zombie contingency plans and your stockpile of 20k rounds of ammo, but extra food and water are more practical beyond a certain point.
 
So, it was zombies who killed those five women in the Tinley Park Lane Bryant, not one guy with a gun?
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It must be terrible to live a life absolutely scared to death of being killed at any moment.

I understand some people get so scared they never leave their homes, become shut-ins due to their fears.

The law of averages say that you are very unlikely be killed in a retail establishment. More like to win the lottery than get killed that way I bet. Certainly more likely to be struck by lightning. You better never leave your house if there are clouds in the sky.

Just curious, are you really that scared or are you using your examples for justification because you just want to carry?
 
Words of Wisdom...

Clint Smith, Director of Thunder Ranch, is part drill instructor, and part standup comic (Thunder Ranch is a firearms training facility in Arizona ).

Here are a few of his observation on tactics, firearms, self defense and life as we know it in the civilized world.

"The most important rule in a gunfight is: Always win and cheat if necessary."

"Don't forget, incoming fire has the right of way.."

"Make your attacker advance through a wall of bullets. You may get killed with your own gun, but he'll have to beat you to death with it, cause it's going to be empty."

"If you're not shootin', you should be loadin'. If you're not loadin', you should be movin', if you're not movin', someone's gonna cut your head off and put it on a stick."

"When you reload in low light encounters, don't put your flashlight in your back pocket.. If you light yourself up, you'll look like an angel or The tooth fairy...and you're gonna be one of 'em pretty soon."

"Do something. It may be wrong, but do something."

"Shoot what's available, as long as it's available, until something else becomes available."

"If you carry a gun, people will call you paranoid. That's ridiculous. If you have a gun, what in the hell do you have to be paranoid for."

"Don't shoot fast, unless you also shoot good.."

"You can say 'stop' or 'alto' or use any other word you think will work, but I've found that a large bore muzzle pointed at someone's head is pretty much the universal language."

"You have the rest of your life to solve your problems.. How long you live depends on how well you do it."

"You cannot save the planet but you may be able to save yourself and your family."

"Thunder Ranch will be here as long as you'll have us or until someone makes us go away, and either way, it will be exciting."
 
One needn't be deathly afraid of being killed at any moment, to make it a habit to carry a gun. It's actually easier to do if it's a habit, like grabbing your keys, wallet and cell phone.

If it's a habit, then carrying it doesn't imply being deathly afraid. It would be rude to answer a phone call at dinner, too, and I'll bet many of us have a cell phone clipped on our belts.

Carrying the gun did not imply some incredible level of terror. If someone's Mom is an anti-gun liberal, well, so what? Why should he change his habits for her, when these habits are hardly obtrusive to anyone? She's not changing anything for his sake, either.
 
amazing how people say how can you bring a gun here.... i bet you if someone kicked the door in with the intent on killing your whole family and you defended everyone there the opinion would have been different...

i carry around my family so that i can protect my family or at least have the chance to....
 
My mom does not care about guns in her home, she gave birth to 5 hunters and owns a 32 revolver herself. Heck she has bought each of us a rifle for Christmas or birthdays.
 
It must be terrible to live a life absolutely scared to death of being killed at any moment.

I understand some people get so scared they never leave their homes, become shut-ins due to their fears.

The law of averages say that you are very unlikely be killed in a retail establishment. More like to win the lottery than get killed that way I bet. Certainly more likely to be struck by lightning. You better never leave your house if there are clouds in the sky.

Just curious, are you really that scared or are you using your examples for justification because you just want to carry?
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that opinion is idiotic and full of gun banner rhetoric
 
that opinion is idiotic and full of gun banner rhetoric
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Movement anti-gunners have posted here in the past and no doubt continue to do so now. AHSA has made repeated attempts here to dupe gun owners into adopting the anti-self-defense propaganda of the Brady Center and the VPC.
 
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