P3AT: Test before you Tote

[mini14jac]

broken extractor
broken trigger (2)
magazine fell out after every shot

Sorry but those don't qualify as "catastrophic failures", nor have I heard of any with KelTec guns. I haven't looked up the actual definition, but a catastrophic failure would be something like the frame cracking, slide flying off, barrel splitting, etc.

I have over 1000 rounds through my P32, and several hundred through my P3AT since it was chromed.

I too wish they would get them right out of the box, but as they are now, if you don't mind doing a little work, you can get an awesome carry gun.

would (and will, when I get a CCW) definitely choose a S&W J-frame revolver over the Kel-Tec for pocket carry. Five rounds of .38 spl +P, from a design with far better shootability,

An Airweight J frame is an excellent carry gun, but I don't think you can say one is more shootable than a KelTec. My wife's 642 will leave your hand throbbing after 20 rounds of 158gr practice ammo.
I can shoot 100 rounds through my P3AT with no pain.
And yes, a Airweight at around 16oz. (loaded), isn't really heavy, but it can't compare to <12oz loaded P3AT.
Is 38 +P ammo more effective than .380 +P? We could probably argue that all day. I think they are really close.

 

[dubb-1]

"broken extractor
broken trigger (2)
magazine fell out after every shot


Sorry but those don't qualify as "catastrophic failures", nor have I heard of any with KelTec guns. I haven't looked up the actual definition, but a catastrophic failure would be something like the frame cracking, slide flying off, barrel splitting, etc."

I suppose every class needs a clown, but the fact of the matter is that any failure that renders a gun inoperable is, indeed, catastrophic. Unless, of course, the failure occurs while the gun is sitting inside the safe.

Come on, I am trying to help you folks out. There is a problem with Kel Tec pistols. I don't gain anything from telling the truth, here. I'd be better off saying that they are great, and every person here should buy one from me.

I don't care what you buy, I am just saying "heads up". If you don't want to look out, that's your problem.

Be well!

 

[halvey]

My gun didn't start having failures to extract until after I had it chromed.

If your gun is running fine, don't do anything to it. I've carried mine everywhere for the past year in my pocket. It's gotten wet and soiled; honestly, I have not treated it well. But it still runs and the blue is still there.

The pin started to back out after heavy shooting, but I got it fixed.

 

[Caliburn]

Kokopeli:

It's a shame that some will pass up this super light 7-1/2 oz and super thin 3/4" thick pistol just because they might have to spend an hour or so doing a little sanding and buffing!

Maybe, but I prefer to tinker with things to perfect them, not to make them work at all. Let the Kel-Tec guys who know them inside and out make it work, instead of me trying my best.
From what folks say the guns that have problems are quickly corrected by the factory. I hope that's so, because mine is there now. It would be nice if they could fix whatever quality control problems they have so that they all function as well as some people here are saying.

 

[mini14jac]

I suppose every class needs a clown, but the fact of the matter is that any failure that renders a gun inoperable is, indeed, catastrophic.

I don't think name calling is going to help our discussion.
Here's a quick definition of catastrophic from www.dictionary.com:

catastrophic
adj : extremely harmful; bringing physical or financial ruin;

There is nothing ruined about a gun if the magazine falls out, or the extractor breaks. (By the way, go to 1911forums.com. Those kind of things happen to $1000+ guns every day, but nobody calls them catastrophic.)
I think everybody (else) agrees that a Glock that explodes is a catastrophic failure.

Now, a mag falling out during a fire fight may be a catastrophy for you, but it's not a catastrophic failure.

Yes, KelTec without a doubt needs better quality control, but there is no point starting another "internet rumor", such as "KelTecs have catastrophic failures."

That is just not true.