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Well, isn't that nice?

600mil/1.5k = 400k per soldier. They must be real good!:rolleyes:


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051202/ap_on_re_eu/poland_us_iraq



By VANESSA GERA, Associated Press Writer
2 hours, 4 minutes ago

Poland Says Iraq Mission Strains Budget

WARSAW, Poland - Poland's new defense minister on Friday suggested that additional U.S. aid would be a crucial factor in determining whether to continue playing an active role in the war on terror.

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A day before heading to Washington, Defense Minister Radek Sikorski said meetings with top U.S. military officials would help Poland reach a decision within the next few weeks whether to keep its 1,500 soldiers in central Iraq or stick to the last government's plan to bring them home next month.

Sikorski, however, said the war on terror has strained the resources of this country of 39 million, which is still emerging from communism and is struggling to deal with the burdens of being a NATO member.

President Bush, meanwhile, faces increasing pressure from critics. The U.S.-led coalition in Iraq is also facing obstacles, with Bulgaria and Ukraine to begin withdrawing their combined 1,250 troops this month, and six other countries, including Poland, considering bringing their soldiers home.

"We've invested a lot of energy — both blood and treasure and government attention, and political capital — in the mission and we certainly want to end it with success," Sikorski said. "By success, I mean handing over our sector of responsibility to a democratically elected Iraqi government ... and I think they are actually pretty close to success."

He said the Iraq mission has cost Poland $600 million — 10 percent of the country's annual defense budget — money that could have gone to modernizing the military, as NATO requires. He indicated that Poland could use U.S. help as it modernizes, but would not say whether an extension of Poland's mission in Iraq was directly contingent upon it.

"Whereas our army has increased its readiness and we are proud to have participated in an operation to help to stabilize Iraq, to bring democracy in Iraq, we could have modernized our forces faster with those funds," Sikorski told The Associated Press.

Sikorski, the first member of Prime Minister Kazimierz Marcinkiewicz's new government to travel to the United States, has close ties to the Bush administration and hopes to build upon the strong relationship the previous government developed with Washington.

Marcinkiewicz's socially conservative government took office on Nov. 10 after defeating the center-left government of Prime Minister Marek Belka.

Sikorski worked until earlier this year at the American Enterprise Institute, the same conservative Washington think tank as Vice President Dick Cheney's wife.

Still, he said the new government, seen as strongly pro-U.S., also wants to maintain good ties with Europe.

Sikorski, speaking in fluent English at a Defense Ministry office in Warsaw, also referred to a plan, still provisional, for Poland to take command of the entire NATO operation in Afghanistan next year, suggesting that without U.S. aid, Poland could not afford it.

"Poland has proved itself as an ally, as an ally that the U.S. has been able to count on in times of need," said Sikorski, who is scheduled to meet with Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld on Wednesday. "So we would like to be in a position to be helpful in the future as well — but it depends on whether we can actually do it."
 
I thought this action was going to be paid for with Iraqi oil first, then the "coalition" would split up the rest of the cost.

How is it they want us to pay for it all?
 
Typical...milk America...and who allows it?

ANother good example of Dim-wit-ocrats and Re-puke-licans milking every dime from Americans to pay for Iraq's war. It's not our war.

Sell their oil, or better yet, just take it. I'd say by now we've bought it in blood.

Doc2005
 
The Polish military is threatening to leave?

Heck, turn the road signs 180 degrees and they'll just march deeper in-country. :neener:
 
From actually reading the article it didnt actually become apparent that the Poles had gone as far as to actually insist upon monetary compensation in exchange for a continued presence in Iraq.

I think the relation of the lead-in and the actual quote as it appears in the article is a little odd.

Here is the lead in:
WARSAW, Poland - Poland's new defense minister on Friday suggested that additional U.S. aid would be a crucial factor in determining whether to continue playing an active role in the war on terror.

Here is what the defense minister actually said:
He said the Iraq mission has cost Poland $600 million — 10 percent of the country's annual defense budget — money that could have gone to modernizing the military, as NATO requires. He indicated that Poland could use U.S. help as it modernizes, but would not say whether an extension of Poland's mission in Iraq was directly contingent upon it.

The two statements seem to have little in common with one another.

The Polish military is threatening to leave?

Heck, turn the road signs 180 degrees and they'll just march deeper in-country.

Thats great. Poland has sent their sons to die in a war of our making. Did you send your's?
 
I've read some very complimentary descriptions of the Polish soldiering in Iraq. FWIW, I don't think they even have a dog in this fight...
 
How can the Polish military leave Iraq? I really doubt their horses are up to that long journey overland.
 
actually the polish cavalry did make a sucsessful attack on a german tank unit during WW2. the cavalry caught a german column while it was refuling and eating.they took out the manned tanks and armoured cars with satchel charges thrown from horseback and sabered germans for 5 miles.

rms/pa
 
It wasn't that long ago that THR was united in singing the praises of brave Poland whose sons were the mighty warriors standing beside us in Iraq and whose daughters were beautiful yet rugged angels . . . . now we're back to Polack jokes.

Nice.
 
For their geographic size and economic power our Polish friends have without a doubt demonstrated exceptional strength of character. I am honored to have served with some of the most solid men I have ever met.
 
We should be grateful the Poles are even in Iraq with us at all. I don't think I'd be opposed to say, giving them some very very deep discounts on equipment to help with modernizing their military...
 
One of my friends who has just returned from Iraq, said the Poles were stand up people, who did a bang up job of engineering near where he was based, said these guys were good at provisional repairs and what could be called patch and go repairs, as well as traditional combat engineering. building bridges, repairing roads, and a lot of repairs on oil systems.

They do not deserve any crap about their skills.
 
Oleg Volk said:
I've read some very complimentary descriptions of the Polish soldiering in Iraq. FWIW, I don't think they even have a dog in this fight...
Couldn't be more true. At least - they have no more of a dog in this fight than any other free nation. They simply seem to be able to recognize who their allies are, and then do the right thing. How can we sit here repeating tired old jokes about Polish incompetance when they are sending their soldiers out to fight and die alongside our ours? They are a country of honerable people, and deserve better than we seem to want to give them.

I'm sure that it woud take little effort to find honest acts of heroism on the parts of Polish soldiers in Iraq. Why do we feel the need to make fun of them as a country?

Sorry. I'm starting to rant ...

fourays2 said:
time to divert some foreign aid from one of the countries that actively hates us to one that supports us.
+1

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It's puzzling and troubling to read of the ridicule of very solid allies willing to help us out but are in dire need of financial help.
 
The Poles have been fighting militant Islam since before the US of A was a twinkle in Sam Adam's eye.
 
Don Gwinn said:
It wasn't that long ago that THR was united in singing the praises of brave Poland whose sons were the mighty warriors standing beside us in Iraq and whose daughters were beautiful yet rugged angels . . . . now we're back to Polack jokes.

Nice.

Don,

Please note that only one (unless I missed more) post insults the poles, and that THR is made up of many, many people. Some are more couth than others.
 
jfruser said:
The Poles have been fighting militant Islam since before the US of A was a twinkle in Sam Adam's eye.

Good point to remember for those of us whose ancestors hail from north and west of the Danube. Unless the title of Janissary appeals to you.
 
fourays2 said:
time to divert some foreign aid from one of the countries that actively hates us to one that supports us.


+1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

Poland gives us that much respect, hell yea, we oughta be diverting the funds away from those that don't like us to them.
 
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