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If your targets are not far away the .177 is just fine and cheaper and easier to find pellets for.
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If your targets are not far away the .177 is just fine and cheaper and easier to find pellets for.
Inflation.! All I can find is $350 but did find a wood stock for $430 Which looks a lot nicer. I weighs about .5 lbs more.
https://www.pyramydair.com/product/air-venturi-avenger-regulated-pcp-air-rifle-wood-stock?m=5307
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They make one, I think, that uses CO2. Mine is a PCP, MCX Virtus. Really fun little toy to give me some trigger time at home. Going to be soon moving to a place where I can set up to shoot outside and any range I want. Will be kind of fun to try it at say 50 yards or so and see what it does.
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OK, to switch topic slightly what are the advantages or disadvantage of .177, 22 or 25 calibers??
I am not hunting anything. More just plink and target.
I am not into calculation of power factors , knockdown power or wound tracks as in center-fire stuff.
Far as I can tell the .177 is cheaper so more fun for the buck. I bought a .22 cal only because I will be moving to a place where I can use it for outdoor pests I want to get rid of. For fun? .177 should be great
I'll kick in for the Avenger as well. I have synthetic stock version and I like it's lightness a lot. I've watched videos about this rifle and folks say it isn't picky about ammo. That is not my experience, mine is very picky. But on the other hand, I shoot 50 to 100 meters the vast majority of the time and that's a whole lot different than shooting 25 yards or less.
Mine will not shoot slugs at all. Not one bit.
In any case, it's a great deal. Regulated, 4350psi, adjustable shot psi, adjustable hammer spring, adjustable trigger and a Weaver rail. It's hard to beat and you can easily do worse.
Both .177 and .22 are easily blown around by wind, but if you are familiar with ballistics at all, a higher ballistic coefficient is always better and the heavier 22's are better as you go further down range, in most cases. The cost difference is not huge between them until you get to the ultra heavy pellets.
The Avenger is new on the market and folks are just now starting to come up with modifications and after market parts are not yet really available. This is a real downside compared to a Gauntlet or Marauder. I feel pretty certain that this is going to rapidly change and mods will be coming in soon. I'm really hoping someone figures out how to put a FX STX barrel on an Avenger, but that is definitely another thread.
Mine will not shoot slugs at all. Not one bit.
In any case, it's a great deal. Regulated, 4350psi, adjustable shot psi, adjustable hammer spring, adjustable trigger and a Weaver rail. It's hard to beat and you can easily do worse.
Both .177 and .22 are easily blown around by wind, but if you are familiar with ballistics at all, a higher ballistic coefficient is always better and the heavier 22's are better as you go further down range, in most cases. The cost difference is not huge between them until you get to the ultra heavy pellets.
The Avenger is new on the market and folks are just now starting to come up with modifications and after market parts are not yet really available. This is a real downside compared to a Gauntlet or Marauder. I feel pretty certain that this is going to rapidly change and mods will be coming in soon. I'm really hoping someone figures out how to put a FX STX barrel on an Avenger, but that is definitely another thread.
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What slugs have you tried?
I have been shooting H&N Rabbit Magnum II 25.31 gr, in my Origin with pretty good results and since the Origin and Avenger are pretty much the same gun other than the regulator, I would think they would work as well in the Avenger. Maybe even better since you have more adjustability than with the Origin.
The Rabbit's were ok at 50 yards. The most common issue I have is reasonable performance at 50 yards with a complete failure at 100. I know that's asking quite a bit, but I do have very good results with Sniper Magnums out to 100 meters, so I know it's possible. Just trying to find a slug that works as well or better since the Sniper Magnums are not currently in production.
I've used H&N slugs of all weights, AVS .217 20 and 23 grain slugs and a number of NSA slugs. None of them were acceptable.
I did a brief 50 meter test with a new batch of NSA .217 17.5 grains that showed some promise at 100 yards, but have not had time to do a serious test. Hopefully this weekend though.
Hopefully H&N will solve their problem with the Sniper Magnums soon, if I could get more Sniper Magnums I probably wouldn't bother spending the time and money chasing slugs.
I do get good results at 50 yards with a number of pellets. I just tested the Norma Golden Trophy FT's in 17.6 grains and the Hatsan Vortex Strikes in 17.75 grains and they were both outstanding. Did not have a chance to take them further though.
My rifle seems to not like heavier pellets in general.
I guess as a note, I have no practical reason for taking an airgun out to 100 meters, or further - but I really like doing so!
I've used H&N slugs of all weights, AVS .217 20 and 23 grain slugs and a number of NSA slugs. None of them were acceptable.
I did a brief 50 meter test with a new batch of NSA .217 17.5 grains that showed some promise at 100 yards, but have not had time to do a serious test. Hopefully this weekend though.
Hopefully H&N will solve their problem with the Sniper Magnums soon, if I could get more Sniper Magnums I probably wouldn't bother spending the time and money chasing slugs.
I do get good results at 50 yards with a number of pellets. I just tested the Norma Golden Trophy FT's in 17.6 grains and the Hatsan Vortex Strikes in 17.75 grains and they were both outstanding. Did not have a chance to take them further though.
My rifle seems to not like heavier pellets in general.
I guess as a note, I have no practical reason for taking an airgun out to 100 meters, or further - but I really like doing so!
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I haven't tried any slugs past 75 myself, so I can't say what they will do at 100 or beyond.
I have shot JSB 18.13s to 100, but do not make a habit of it because the only line I currently have to shoot that far has a public road just beyond it, so that is best not used, even with air guns.
This week I have been clearing the upper end of my property and will firing up the skid steer to construct a berm that should give me a 150 yard lane with nothing behind it for more than a mile!
I have shot JSB 18.13s to 100, but do not make a habit of it because the only line I currently have to shoot that far has a public road just beyond it, so that is best not used, even with air guns.
This week I have been clearing the upper end of my property and will firing up the skid steer to construct a berm that should give me a 150 yard lane with nothing behind it for more than a mile!
I don't have a PCP, concerned about moisture in the air and when I looked into it, I came across a thread on connecting a compresssor with a cheap dryer to boost inlet pressure to reduce cycles to pump. Seems like a good idea! But I doubt the dryer for compressed air at 125 psi will keep the air dry when compressed to 3000 psi!
https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=62546.40
https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=62546.40
I have not tried JSB slugs. I'll put those on the to-do list. Agree with ricochets, even though skirted pellets lose a lot of their aerodynamics rapidly, still no reason to get sloppy with them. I would think that slugs are much worse for that.
That was an interesting thread, thanks for posting that. My compressor came with a water separator and I can say that it does expel a surprising amount of water when the line gets bled at the end of a fill cycle. So moisture is definitely a concern.
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