Pellets and powder.

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Chrony'd my Accura v 2 today. Using the 250 gr barnes over 3 50gr,T7 plellets

Shot at 2118 fps. Not bad with a 250. Gr projectile

Plus it grouped well at 100 yards. 3 shots bout 1 and 1/2 groups
 
Chrony'd my Accura v 2 today. Using the 250 gr barnes over 3 50gr,T7 plellets

Shot at 2118 fps. Not bad with a 250. Gr projectile

Plus it grouped well at 100 yards. 3 shots bout 1 and 1/2 groups
Have you ever tried to use granular at all? Pretty decent groups and I'm surprised with preloaded pellets actually....

Aloha... :cool:
 
Actually you have to research the whole thing to get any sense out of it and getting data for the same bullet is difficult across the powders... such as a 240 XTP for example with Pyrodex/777 and pellets. Not always is 3F more powerful than 2F, as you suggest. The 400 grain TC 400 grain bone crusher with 100 grains of 2F is higher velocity than 3F. There were many other examples as well.

As I read this, 777 is more energy than Pyrodex P or RS. What surprised me is on their loading data page for pellets, they make the confusing statement that "Pyrodex and Triple Seven Pellets were developed to give the same pressure and velocity with the volume equivalent measure.
Therefore, they use the same data. Our standard data was developed using 24" barrels ..... "

But on the other hand, if you worked up loads to 100 grains with 777 2F, lets say for a 240 Hornady XTP, you can't find the data with pellets. And this is rampant. So lets take the 240 hornady and with 777 3F = 1927 fps. Well and Good! Pyrodex P is 1775 fps as expected. 100 grains of volume of Pellet, though is none existent. So next maybe best is the 240 Precision Extreme or the 245 BAR Spit Fire at 1703 and 1785 respectively. The BAR is one of those where you can't find the data amongst the 3 powders available... Pyrodex, 777, and pellets.... and neither is the Dead Center 175 grain bullet.

The end result is that it is difficult to determine from these tables what is what and as usual, it is probably best to work up your own loads and it certainly looks like granular is superior to the pellets, which in my opinion is somewhat of a gimmick and a poor performing one at that.

Aloha... :cool:

In both the examples I referenced the charts show that 100gr of 3F 777 achieved higher velocities than 100gr 2F 777, performance varies with other projectiles. My point is, based on the OP, the data clearly shows that it would be unreasonable to assume that 2 50gr 777 pellets will perform identically to 100gr of loose 777 powder. Folks should work out their own load in each firearm.
 
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In both the examples I referenced the charts show that 100gr of 3F 777 achieved higher velocities than 100gr 2F 777, performance varies with other projectiles. My point is, based on the OP, the data clearly shows that it would be unreasonable to assume that 2 50gr 777 pellets will perform identically to 100gr of loose 777 powder. Folks should work out their own load in each firearm.
I wasn't criticizing you, so I hope that wasn't the way it was meant to be taken... if that is how it came off, I sincerely apologize. What I was pointing out was that Hodgdon for some reason didn't take the bullets tried all the way... Pyrodex/777/pellets and it makes using the table almost non-functioning in many cases.

The statements of volume (which pellets clearly are not) would at first blush, as I took it to mean as an inaccurate assumption, gave me the impression that pellets were the same as loose... and is almost the case with Pyordex but still not quite.

Personally I don't know why anyone would use pellets, but then I'm not in marketing, I'm into shooting.... and tinkering... and well ... :D

Much Aloha... :cool:
 
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