People with guns who never shoot?

[rtpzwms]

Quote from JR47
NOBODY has the right to set arbitrary rules as to how much training, or how good a shot, someone is when they buy a gun. Especially since they are using in their own home. All the relentless "what-ifs" are just that, what if? In the real world, they have a nasty habit of never occurring.

A person who owns a gun for protection isn't going to vote to give them up, or restrict their use any further. What kind of fool would mirror the morally bankrupt politicians by advocating "minimum standards"?

Really? They make us take a driving test now. It was not required in the 20's. Give them time and we will have to show some level of training and skill.

As far as your second statement read this: http://www.dkosopedia.com/wiki/Dianne_Feinstein
It seems that she has the ONLY CC permit issued in San Fransisco CA. Not only is she voting to give away these rights she is leading the CHARGE!

 

[Sunray]

"...How about a cop who didn't shoot?..." Not unusual. The days of cops being shooters before they get hired are long over. Most of 'em never saw a real firearm. Their education is far more important. Most don't shoot or hunt recreationally. They see their issue piece as just another hunk of weight they're required to lug around. Good bunch of people for the most part.
"...People with guns who never shoot?..." That's not unusual either. There are lots of pure collectors out there. Pure collectors face the same stupid possession laws that shooters do.
"...he never finds .32 in the stores..." .32 what?
"...NOBODY has the right to set arbitrary rules as to how much training, or how good a shot, someone is when they buy a gun...." Nobody does either. CCW isn't the same as owning.
"...They make us take a driving test now..." What's your point? Commercial truck drivers, up here, are required to have a medical and do a written test every 3 years. Drivers over 80, I think it is, are tested annually. All drivers should be required to prove their skills regularly.

 

[UKShooter]

Over here in the UK, they will take your guns off you if you arent using them. Ammo purchases are tracked so if you havent bought any ammo for a year for a particular firearm, the police can say you don't have a 'need' for the guns so you can't have them.

Gun clubs require a minimum attendance also.

I find it difficult to understand owning guns and not shooting them. Shooting is fun!! I generally shoot shotgun every week, a couple of hundred rounds each time on sporting clays or skeet.

 

[Justin]

Firearms ownership is a fundamental civil right.

However, like all rights, there are certain responsibilities that go along with exercising it.

I'm sorry, but if you wish to own a gun for self-defense, you really ought to go to the range at least four or five times a year to practice basic gun handling and shooting skills.

Improperly handled firearms can and have resulted in negligent discharges, self-inflicted gunshot wounds, and injured or dead friends and family members.

The stakes are simply to high to make the claim that its ok to not achieve some basic level of firearms proficiency.



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[jimmyraythomason]

I'm sorry, but if you wish to own a gun for self-defense, you really ought to go to the range at least four or five times a year to practice basic gun handling and shooting skills.

I agree ,however,it in no way should be a requirement for firearms ownership. Neither should the reason for the ownership be taken into account i.e; protection,hunting,collecting or just to keep your socks from getting lonely.

 

[bubbaturbo]

Have you ever been around anybody who only talks about one thing and does so continuously? If you're someone who talks about guns and shooting all the time and is always pestering somebody to buy a gun or go shooting with you, then you may be seen as some kind of fanatic that people don't want to be around. Neverending conversations about your latest sniper rifle or your ammo stash aren't seen as normal by a large segment of the population. They're not impressed, they're tired of listening to you, and they think you're weird. If somebody doesn't want to go shoot with you after multiple invitations, maybe you're the problem. Learn how to talk about other stuff. Just sayin'.

 

[CZ223]

In a way we should be thankful

for gun owners who don't shoot. The club that I belong to has nearly eight hundred members right now and five general purpose ranges. I can go the range most any day of the week and have a range all to myself. Even on the weekends, I have no problems and have rarely had to wait for a spot to open up. I think the only time I had to wait at all was for a spot on the hundred yard line where we have six benches. I could have gone and shot something else on another range if I had wanted. I can visually identify maybe 30 people who I have run into several times. Most of these guys come to the range a couple times a year. The reason that we should be grateful is that they still pay the $150 annual fee which buys a lot of nice things for those of who do shoot all the time.

 

[qwert65]

post 42 sums it up nicely in my opinion. SD distances are mind not skill mostly

My father, a vietnam vet(helicopter mechanic), didn't shoot from 1969 till 1994 when he taught me and my brother how to shoot our only gun a single shot 22. My father was hitting targets at 8-9 yards in the black snap-shooting from his hip. After teaching us how to shoot that summer he's fired only once about 10yrs later he saw a groundhog out by the barn(75yds) he drilled it one shot then the rifle went back in the corner.

Now none of these were tough shots but certainly whithin the realm of SD.

Me I like to shoot once a week but I may be a "gun-nut"

 

[LibShooter]

I'm sorry, but if you wish to own a gun for self-defense, you really ought to go to the range at least four or five times a year to practice basic gun handling and shooting skills.

We ought to eat lots of fruits and vegetables every day, change our oil every 3,000 miles and read the paper before we vote. However, many of us don't.

If a guy wants to buy a .38 and a box of ammo, load up six rounds and leave the gun and 44 rounds in his nightstand for forty years that's his business. It's no different than having a Big Mac for lunch three times a week: ill-advised but none of my business.

 

[ccsniper]

My grandpa had 5 guns of which the last time he had shot them was 1987. asked him to take me shooting and he brought a .22 bolt action rifle (remington 512). we set up a target at 100 yards for the .22 and I set up a cinder block at 250 for my PSL. He started shooting and hit the cinder block 4/5 times at 250 yards. Some people are just natural I guess.

 

[liikeaboss]

Firearms ownership is a fundamental civil right.

However, like all rights, there are certain responsibilities that go along with exercising it.

I'm sorry, but if you wish to own a gun for self-defense, you really ought to go to the range at least four or five times a year to practice basic gun handling and shooting skills.

Improperly handled firearms can and have resulted in negligent discharges, self-inflicted gunshot wounds, and injured or dead friends and family members.

The stakes are simply to high to make the claim that its ok to not achieve some basic level of firearms proficiency.

Agree, but again it should not be prerequisite for ownership.

 

[gym]

It also has become expensive to shoot in this economy with folks out of work. Their priorities are not the same as they were. Not many single guys either have an extra hundred laying around to make that range trip they used to make. Being retired now I don't get to the range nearly enough, but with all the costs associated with going it's a hundred bucks by the time your done for 30 minutes worth of fun. Back in the 90's it would cost you 40 dollars and everyone was working. Unfortunatelly in some states you can't find land to shoot on for free anymore and that alone is 10-20 dollars for an hour. I saw a guy charge $30 dollars for renting a pistol at a range here in FL, for an hour plus the range fee. It used to cost $10.00 to rent a gun. The only good thing is I can tell mmy wife, " see it's cheaper to buy a gun if you are going to shoot it a few times"lol

 

[JR47]

Really? They make us take a driving test now. It was not required in the 20's. Give them time and we will have to show some level of training and skill.

Only if we let them. Of course, listening to some here, that would be a GOOD thing. Until, that is, "they" require 80 hours of class-room training, 40 hours of range time, and a 90% minimum score on a test of skills that would make Thunder Ranch blanch.

As far as your second statement read this: http://www.dkosopedia.com/wiki/Dianne_Feinstein
It seems that she has the ONLY CC permit issued in San Fransisco CA. Not only is she voting to give away these rights she is leading the CHARGE!

That's NOT an example, that's a joke. You can find ONE person that goes against everyone else. It doesn't make the original statement wrong.

Obviously, we should have minimum requirements in grammar, spelling, and punctuation before allowing anyone on the computer.

Why don't we require a separate license for those using manual transmission vehicles? After all, that skill is rapidly dying out, and certainly requires training to make the vehicle operator safe.

It would make more sense to require testing, training, and skills evaluation before anyone should be allowed to have sex. The results of that lack are woefully evident in life every day.

While these are extreme examples (except for the manual transmission requirement), they are examples of the "what if" thinking of too many here.

 

[nathan]

Most buy expensive ARs and once time to go shooting, they couldnt see the need to waste $ 40 for 100 rds. They just fired 50 rds and and go home. So thats like $ 20 for ammo and $ 10 for range fees. The $ 1000 worth AR sits in the closet the rest in the next five years.

 

[Sebastian the Ibis]

The last time I was at the range there was a guy with a beautiful Beautiful Robinson Arms rifle and a Colt AR he had not fired them or any other gun in the 5 + years since he had bought them.

It makes you realize that why there are so many NIB and LNIB guns for sale on gun broker.