If you had to choice a pistol caliber carbine what would it be? Lets eliminate the 9mm because I already have one. Also, lets limit it to 40cal and 45acp as the only choices. I have both those calibers in hand guns and having a hard time choosing one in a carbine. I like the knock down power and brute force of the 45ACP but my research shows it slows down a little in a longer barrel. Does anyone have any experience with either one in a carbine? Also, I do reload so I can experiment with different powders to increase velocity. Thanks.
Pistol Caliber Carbine?
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Indigo22
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As popular as the .380 is I'm surprised someone hasn't chambered a carbine in that caliber. Seeing as it is the only center fire caliber I currently own I'd give it a whirl... Personally, matching up a rifle and handgun caliber combination is one of the best ideas out there.
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Well the Beretta CX-4 Storm comes to mind but I think you're somewhat limited in mag capacity with the .45 version.
I would recommend borrowing one before you buy if possible
I know a few guys who have bought them and then quickly lost interest.
I looked at the Hipoint in 40, but after shooting a few rounds on my friends......
Decided to put "gun" money toward other stuff
For me, I couldnt really find a specific purpose for the carbine that wasnt filled by other weapons I have
I know a few guys who have bought them and then quickly lost interest.
I looked at the Hipoint in 40, but after shooting a few rounds on my friends......
Decided to put "gun" money toward other stuff
For me, I couldnt really find a specific purpose for the carbine that wasnt filled by other weapons I have
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Since magazines are the "consumable" of modern repeating arms, it makes even more sense for them to share magazines.
Semi-auto .380 carbine; VZ61
And either add a 16" barrel/extension, or SBR it for the original folding wire stock. Small enough for a holster w/o the magazine, too. A lot lighter than you'd think, too. They were originally in 32ACP, which is apparently non-existent for some reason despite being Europe's most popular caliber for 70 years
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If Beretta came out with a 357sig CX4 I would be all over it. Hot little round out of a 16" barrel.
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I've got an AR in .45ACP. It's only real practical application is to put a smile on my face. I also have one in 9mm. I think the .45ACP is more fun.
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I enjoy pistol caliber carbines.
I have the Ruger PC-9 9mm, Marlin 45acp camp carbine, Marlin 1894 CP 16" 357mag/38spl, and the Beretta Cx4 in 9mm. The newest one I have had over 10 years.
The Marlin 1894 CP is the most fun, and useful. Accurate and reliable. Very light, and easy to use. This is the "Most Fun" rifle I own.
For Pistol caliber carbine matches and defense I would go with the Beretta first, and the Marlin 1894 a close second for defense. Primary reason is I have a Aimpoint H1 Micro Reddot turned on 24/7 and white light on the Beretta, which makes it much better for low light engagements. I don't want to mess with the aesthetics of the Marlin.
The trigger in the Ruger sucks and cannot in any practical way be improved, and the Marlin has never been reliable.
If I could only have one I would go with the Marlin 1894. Second is the Beretta in 9mm. For the semi auto's in semi auto pistol calibers, there is no real advantage of 40 or 45 over the 9mm. I am not getting any deeper into the caliber wars than that. My own opinion, based on my own combat experience and knowledge. Outside the house, I want a rifle caliber carbine, 7.62 NATO or if necessary 5.56 NATO.
I used a Thompson sub-Machine gun in 45acp of course, and a Swedish-K in 9mm in Vietnam each a few times. I much preferred the K over the Thompson by a good margin. I don't recommend pistol caliber anything for combat if it can be avoided, includes handguns too.
For high round count shooting I like the Beretta, I have factory magazines in 10, 15, 20, & 30 rounders. Meg-Gar offers 17, 18, and a different 20 rounders all of them very reliable. (Please note my carbine is set up for the 92 Magazines. So all these magazines will work with 6 of my Beretta 92 variants.
If a 45acp carbine is the ticket, I would go most likely with the Beretta, or maybe the HK with the 10 round only magazine.
Go figure.
Fred
I have the Ruger PC-9 9mm, Marlin 45acp camp carbine, Marlin 1894 CP 16" 357mag/38spl, and the Beretta Cx4 in 9mm. The newest one I have had over 10 years.
The Marlin 1894 CP is the most fun, and useful. Accurate and reliable. Very light, and easy to use. This is the "Most Fun" rifle I own.
For Pistol caliber carbine matches and defense I would go with the Beretta first, and the Marlin 1894 a close second for defense. Primary reason is I have a Aimpoint H1 Micro Reddot turned on 24/7 and white light on the Beretta, which makes it much better for low light engagements. I don't want to mess with the aesthetics of the Marlin.
The trigger in the Ruger sucks and cannot in any practical way be improved, and the Marlin has never been reliable.
If I could only have one I would go with the Marlin 1894. Second is the Beretta in 9mm. For the semi auto's in semi auto pistol calibers, there is no real advantage of 40 or 45 over the 9mm. I am not getting any deeper into the caliber wars than that. My own opinion, based on my own combat experience and knowledge. Outside the house, I want a rifle caliber carbine, 7.62 NATO or if necessary 5.56 NATO.
I used a Thompson sub-Machine gun in 45acp of course, and a Swedish-K in 9mm in Vietnam each a few times. I much preferred the K over the Thompson by a good margin. I don't recommend pistol caliber anything for combat if it can be avoided, includes handguns too.
For high round count shooting I like the Beretta, I have factory magazines in 10, 15, 20, & 30 rounders. Meg-Gar offers 17, 18, and a different 20 rounders all of them very reliable. (Please note my carbine is set up for the 92 Magazines. So all these magazines will work with 6 of my Beretta 92 variants.
If a 45acp carbine is the ticket, I would go most likely with the Beretta, or maybe the HK with the 10 round only magazine.
Go figure.
Fred
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I got to handle a CX4 Storm at the LGS last week. It looked really nice. Only reason I didn't buy it is because I'm looking for a 9mm carbine.
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Why not get one of those carbine kits for a Glock? Then you got a huge variety of calibers and common mags to boot.
I have A marlin .357 and just bought a cx4. Since I often carry a .357 wheel gun the Marlin made sense to me. My got my father the cx4 to go with the VERTEC I got him years ago. He has had multiple surgeries on both his shoulders so the carbine was a good compromise to a SG or rifle for close in.
Thanks for all of the replies. I do have a Ruger PC9 which I really like. I have over 10K rounds threw it without any problems. The only complaint would be the trigger. I also have a Marlin 1894C in 357/38. Great little lever action, very accurate and reliable. I had the chance to shoulder a Beretta CX4 but not shoot it. I really like the feel of it but can't decide on the 40cal or 45acp. Unfortunately the 40cal in next to impossible to get in Massachusetts so I might be left with the 45acp. The CX 45acp only comes with an 8 round mag. They do make a 10 round but finding one is also impossible. I would be using the carbine just to shoot large amounts of lead down range. They just look really fun to shoot. The price is a little high, 799.00 the last time I check.
SIG's new PCC is going to be in 357SIG. Price is not friendly but I sure wouldn't mind having one.
This has been a tough one for the market I think. A lot of people just brush off the PCC as an obsolete piece when cosidering the common AR round's abilities inside buidings (from a defensive stand point). I personally think that as long as there are buildings to assault and defend, there will be PCCs.
I've personally had the opportunity to play with a UMP 40 and a Kriss 45. I've held some original Stens, but wasn't fortunate enough to fire them. I've also looked into the Wolf PCC ARs. The main problem with all of them is cost, comparative ballistics and actual usage.
Where I live SBR is not available for us peasants so it's out of the question for me, but even if I could, I'd have to think really hard to decide if a $200 tax stamp would be worth the reduced ballistics compared to 5.56 or x39 or 12 gauge buckshot. No doubt that if you go with a PCC for defense, a short barrel is where they excell for mobility.
OP, I wouldn't sneeze at your PC9. I think 9mm is far underrated. It's always nice to look at other calibers, but don't discredit what you already have either.
I think in a nonSBR state like mine, I'd go with the Wolf AR with Glock 17 9mm mags.
I've personally had the opportunity to play with a UMP 40 and a Kriss 45. I've held some original Stens, but wasn't fortunate enough to fire them. I've also looked into the Wolf PCC ARs. The main problem with all of them is cost, comparative ballistics and actual usage.
Where I live SBR is not available for us peasants so it's out of the question for me, but even if I could, I'd have to think really hard to decide if a $200 tax stamp would be worth the reduced ballistics compared to 5.56 or x39 or 12 gauge buckshot. No doubt that if you go with a PCC for defense, a short barrel is where they excell for mobility.
OP, I wouldn't sneeze at your PC9. I think 9mm is far underrated. It's always nice to look at other calibers, but don't discredit what you already have either.
I think in a nonSBR state like mine, I'd go with the Wolf AR with Glock 17 9mm mags.
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Tophernj
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I believe that Just Right Carbines has just come out with a .45acp AR styled carbine. Might take a look. They do take standard Glock mags. I've shot the 9mm version and it's pretty nice.
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Well, this is something you don't see everyday...
http://www.everydaynodaysoff.com/2012/05/07/315-10mm-blowback-carbine-hi-point-conversion/
http://www.everydaynodaysoff.com/2012/05/07/315-10mm-blowback-carbine-hi-point-conversion/
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