Pizza driver kidnapped and taken for an adventure..

[MedWheeler]

This happened in the county in which I work.

I also work one night each week in pizza delivery, but not in that county.

Driver is accosted arriving at a "set-up" address, and forced into his own trunk. The vehicle is later used to crash through the front of a gun store (with the driver still in the trunk) in an attempt to steal guns. Those, however, were locked up in safes, so none were taken.

Driver released essentially unharmed about 30 miles away.

http://www.wpbf.com/news/robbers-kidnap-pizza-driver-plow-into-gun-store-authorities-say/30802414

One fail in this case is allowing oneself to be placed inside a trunk. The track record of survival in such a situation is extremely poor.


Since this is similar to the ATM robbery/kidnapping being discussed elsewhere here, I thought another robbery/kidnapping situation with a different twist could expand the reminders such reports offer us.

 

[Double Naught Spy]

Wow, talk about going on Mr. Toad's Willd Ride!

 

[GRIZ22]

MedWheeler, getting put in the trunk is a bad sign I agree but what course of action do you recommend if you are being forced into the trunk as the article says.

 

[Vodoun da Vinci]

Thank The Powers that he is OK. Lucky, lucky, lucky...

I'd take a bullet or bolt or *something* stupid and crazy before being locked in a trunk or forced prone, taken to a back room, etc. I have this phobia that once these things happen I am going to die. If someone gets the drop on me at gunpoint and tells me to "get in the trunk" or "lie on the ground" I'm going for his throat or running like a rabbit and taking a bullet in the back.

I'd figure I was dead anyway at that point. Thank goodness the driver is OK.

VooDoo

 

[MedWheeler]

GRIZ22, I'm not here to make such recommendations.

I just pointed out that the survival rate of victims so placed is extremely poor, probably worse than that for resistance or refusal to comply, depending on the environment. In robbery situations, trunks, commercial refrigerators (walk-in coolers), and "back rooms" are very often execution chambers because of the privacy and noise-reduction they offer. Staying out of them makes it much harder for most would-be killers to carry out the deed.

Vodoun da Vinci addressed it above as well.

 

[Double Naught Spy]

A standard rule of thumb is to NEVER get into the vehicle with the bad guys. As pointed out by one crime analyst, "A lot of people are found dead, in the woods, who were not in the woods when their friends/family last saw them alive."

Entry into a vehicle immediately closes off many of your options for escape or safety.

 

[tomrkba]

MedWheeler, getting put in the trunk is a bad sign I agree but what course of action do you recommend if you are being forced into the trunk as the article says.

Use the guns you placed inside the trunk in case a murderer forced you into the trunk?

 

[frgood]

Don't trunks now have a hood latch release? Could you not release it and crawl out as the car begins to move or when motion is slow?

At least it is an option.

 

[Fred Fuller]

Newer cars do indeed have an interior trunk latch release.

Everyone should have a flashlight on their person (even if it's just a Nano, Photon etc) and another stashed in the trunk of their vehicle. It pays to look around your trunk and think ahead ... what other potentially useful items are in there?

 

[MedWheeler]

^^ Or, as I mentioned, make deliveries in your pickup truck. Pretty easy to escape an open cargo bed.

If I even had a car with a trunk, that would finally give me a place to stash that Hi-Point I picked up a while back..

 

[earlthegoat2]

I think you have a high probability of survival if you just refuse instructions from the perps and run run run if you get the chance. If you have not witnessed them committing murder, they will probably just let you go or it will take them too long to get their wits together to give chase. If you are out in the sticks somewhere though where no one can hear you yelling......then, IDK.