Please help - never shot a pistol

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Can I safely learn to shoot pistols without instruction?

I have a NIB Ruger MKII and a NIB CZ75b 9mm. Should I start with only 1 round, then gradually add rounds in these new guns? Any jewels of wisdom that might not be obvious to a first-timer? :uhoh:

I have:

shot rifles and shotguns a couple times

understand firearms safety rules (finger off trigger ... etc)

fully read the manuals for the pistols I want to shoot

taken apart and cleaned these pistols so I understand their operation

read lots of web advice about good/bad habit forming and techniques.

Thanks,
buzz
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if you're familiar with thier workings and all, i don't see why not start off with a full mag... if you don't want to, go with half-filled...

~TMM
 
Buzz-

Where do you live? You may want to go with someone who may have a higher comfort level to give advice?

Possibly take a course?

Personally*, I'm not sure about a first time going alone. How extensive is your previous experience?

* Notice I said "personally". Please don't flame, this is my opinion, and that is what was asked for!
 
If I may suggest if your uncomfortable with your firearms, Go to a local range and rent a gun to shoot or attend a NRA basic pistol coarse! Your local dealer might also be able to help you get accustomed to your firearms! :cool:
 
Sure you could, but why not find someone a little more experienced than you to shoot with? It's more fun, and they often can spot weaknesses you might be doing by watching you. I've been a shooter for 41 years, and every once in a while a buddy will point out something I'm doing wrong, or a habit that I have acquired that isn't helpfull to my scores. Even the golf pros like Tiger Woods have coaches. Good luck, and happy shooting.
 
I don't see why not. You have handled firearms before so should have a good understanding of how they function. Take your time and sort it out. Not brain surgery. Some pointers from someone more experienced wouldn't hurt, though. Helped me undo a bad habit and learned some other holds, stances, etc. Shoot safe and enjoy!
Josh
 
IMHO, the biggest difference between shooting long guns and hand guns relates to muzzle control. While it is easy to keep track of 16"-24" of barrel out in front of you and keep it pointed in the right direction, this becomes more difficult with 2"-8" of handgun barrel.

Make sure to keep the barrel pointing down range at all times, All Times, ALL TIMES. With a handgun, you will need to make a concious effort to ensure this.
 
Don't forget to wear eye protection and ear muffs.

My last time out, I got hit several times on my glasses with ejected rounds.

You just never know when it will happen!
 
Ask your favorite range if there is an instructor there who can give you a class. Pay for good instruction, not Fat Fred the Gunshop Commando. Go find out in person what to do, not through a book.
 
You can learn on your own if you want to. Just like you can teach yourself how to drive a car. But to really get a good start and avoid forming bad habits, I'd take a basic pistol course. Find a good range and don't be afraid to ask for help. Most good shooters will gladly give you some help. You can learn sight alignment, sight picture and trigger control on your own, but a coach can spot a lot of things you may not even know you are doing.

Most of all have fun and welcome.
 
Best to start with a class if you can.

If you can't, it's not the end of the world.

Don't listen to TMM; the smartest way to start familiarizing yourself with a pistol, whether you're an old hand with a new gun or a new shooter, is to start with load one shoot one drills.

Load one, shoot one. Repeat five times.

Load two, shoot two. Repeat five times.

After that, you can either work up gradually -- load three, shoot three, load four shoot four etc -- or just go ahead and load a full magazine. Either way, don't get going too fast and if you start to feel confident, slow down again because that's when accidents happen.

Load one shoot one drills are slow and ungainly, but are really the best way to familiarize yourself with all the functions of your new gun.

Important: in doing these drills, do not neglect to use the safety. Put it on immediately after loading, every time. Turn the safety off as you raise the gun to fire, every time. Put the safety back on as you remove the sights from the target, every time. If you are conscious of muzzle direction and trigger finger discipline the use of the safety won't matter that much at the range, but you do want to be building in the very very important habit of employing the safety every time you load the gun. It has to be built into your muscle memory.

Be very acutely conscious of muzzle direction at all times. It is easy for new shooters to get distracted by gun manipulations (racking the slide, removing the magazine, whatever) and lose track of where the muzzle is. Don't do it! Keep your awareness focused on the direction the muzzle is pointed at all times; if you need to change the angle of your body relative to the gun, move your body (not the gun) so that the gun remains pointed downrange at all time.

This is especially important for rifle shooters moving to handguns for the first time. It's relatively easy to control muzzle direction on a rifle, and relatively harder to watch muzzle on a handgun. Don't get lulled by a sense of familiarity; a short barrel drifts around a lot more easily than a longer one.

Your brain already knows about trigger finger discipline and about muzzle direction, but your hands don't know yet. Don't think you know more than you do, even though you "know" all this stuff. Take it slow at first even if it seems silly!

Hope that helps.

Whups ~ Forgot to add, start with the .22 and don't use the CZ until you're ready for it. When you do move to the CZ, practice doing the first shot with the hammer decocked, in DA mode. It'll serve you well later on, if you're interested in self defense shooting at all.

pax
 
"...safely learn to shoot pistols without instruction..." Yes and no. Sounds like you have enough common sense so just going shooting won't endanger the planet. Start with the .22(target velocity ammo) and be extremely aware of where the muzzle is pointed.
However, there's shooting safely and shooting well. The safe part is in your head. I suspect you have that. Shooting well is another thing. The best thing you could do is to join a club. There's a plethora of assistance you will get just by joining a club and you'll meet some great people who won't think twice about helping you. Shooters are like that.
Do you need formal instruction you pay for? No. Joining a club will do that. And shooting the CZ requires the same common sense as the Ruger. Most clubs will encourage shooting both RF and CF. You'll likely be convinced to reload all centrefire ammo and to buy a .38/.357 revolver too.
Shooting handguns is the only addictive thing that's not bad for your health. It's absolutely fabulous for your mental health.
 
I think the best advise on here so far next to attending a firearms class is to have a buddy (familiar with handguns) go to the range with you. When I first started shooting hanguns I just went out to the range and went at it untill I felt comfortable with my gun and my shooting. Even now I usually prefer to have someone else go along with me, its more fun shooting with a friend and also nice to have someone else around just in the rare case of an accident (kb or something?). Just grab a more experianced friend to go along with you, before you know it you'll be having so much fun that you'll be taking turns making ammo runs.
 
If you have fired long guns before in the past and know all the basic and important general saftey measures in handling a firearm than a pistol shouldnt be a problem. JUst find out what you want and familirize yourself to the mechanics of the weapon aka read the manual.
 
newbie "range" report

First let me say THANKS EVERYONE! for your great advice. :)

I took the MKII KMK512 out into the deep woods and fired 45 rounds of CCI Mini-Mag. Weapon functioned perfectly. I started by loading 2 rounds and hit a 12 oz. Gatorade bottle at about 40 feet across a creek on my first shot, from a standing position, first time ever firing a handgun. Wow! Both magazines functioned with full 10 rounds. I then proceeded to hit the bottle laying on the ground about 75% of the time.

Case ejection distance ranged from about 8 feet to about 12 feet. The firing pin marks looked good (i guess), and the cases were straight, not cracked, or bulged. Upon inspection with a 10x loupe, each rim had a tiny nick in it's underside, which I assume is from the extractor.

Shooting alone in the woods does nothing to improve safe handling of a firearm for me. I'm not sure if it was being alone, or my thorough enjoyment of shooting my first pistol. I caught myself sweeping the trees with the barrel (even though the bolt was locked open) when I turned around to reload. I did keep my finger off the trigger, and used the safety when not firing. I suppose it was better to learn my lesson sweeping trees than people at a range. :uhoh:

After about 15 rounds I calmed down and started to recall some tips I've read on THR. I realized that yes I was focusing on the front site without thinking about it. I began to pull the trigger more gently, and controlled my breathing better. I can't wait to shoot from a support onto paper to see how this thing groups. It sure seems accurate. After today's shoot, I think that a bull barrel is good for handgun newbies: it helped me steady the gun while my heart was pounding from the excitement! It was awesome. I now have a better understanding of the love of handgun shooting. :D

Thanks again everyone,
Buzzcut
 
Sounds like you had a great time shooting out there!! I too started out with a Ruger MKII pistol and feel it is a great first pistol.
 
I don't know about you, but the first time I ever shot a pistol, I wanted to do it alone. I didn't want any witnesses if I dropped the gun, or just couldn't hit a barn from inside.

Now that you got that under your belt, you might want to think about getting some instruction.
 
You have already did better than I did my first time with a handgun. I missed and missed and missed. I finally started hitting stuff when I tried out an automatic, but only a little better. I did eventually get to the point where I could put a full mag of 45 ACP into the head of a silouhette target at 25 yards without too much trouble, then I traded the 1911 for a SIG P-225. It was one of my better decisions. :D
Glad you made out OK.
 
I'll never forget the smile on my daughter's face the first time she fired a pistol, I had a similar experience just last month when I took a friend from church to the range and taught him to shoot pistol, too. Of couse it paled in comparison to the experience with my daughter, but to share the joy of shooting for the first time with someone is very rewarding.
 
If you are nervous about taking your pistol to the range for the first time, my suggestion would be to buy a BB or pellet gun in pistol form, and plink in the backyard. This will give you an idea of how to properly hold the pistol, form and stance. Furthermore, you can practice gun safety on the BB/pellet gun.

Good luck.
 
One suggestion about being at a range that is easy to forget sometimes. DO NOT handle the firearm away from the table of the booth you are shooting from. It you need to load it, unload it, inspect it, take the slide down, whatever; do all of it at the table, facing downrange with the muzzle facing that way. Magazines are usually ok to load away from the table, just don't handle the firearm.

When I've acted as a range officer this was the most common mistake people made, newbies and experienced people alike. It makes ROs VERY nervous :eek:
 
Getting Help

If you have a local sportmans club you can seek their assistance. They should get you set up with someone with good knowledge.
 
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