Police Recruit Shot by Police

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As bullets peppered Miguel Quezada's apartment Friday night, he took shelter in the safest place he could think of: the bathroom.

The gunshots started about 8:45 p.m. Quezada looked out the window of his apartment -- on Mandalay Bay Road/Hacienda Avenue, a block east of the Strip -- and saw a man hurling Molotov cocktails into the street and firing a handgun into the air.



The man was later identified as a Metropolitan Police Department recruit.

When Las Vegas police arrived, the recruit began firing at them, and a gunfight erupted between officers and the man seeking to join their ranks.

Officers shot the recruit multiple times, and he later died at University Medical Center, police said Saturday. Police did not identify the recruit.

Quezada's apartment was left with bullet holes in the walls. One round made a fist-sized hole in a coffee table.

"It was crazy," Quezada said.

Clark County Sheriff Doug Gillespie, who on Friday night was at the scene of the shooting, across Las Vegas Boulevard from Mandalay Bay, said the recruit had been in the academy since Jan. 30.

A motive for the rampage wasn't known, but police were investigating.

"This definitely is a unique scenario that we've had occur out here," Gillespie said.

The sheriff couldn't recall in his 26-plus years with the department a shootout between police and a recruit or fellow officer.

The gunman was first spotted by AMR medics parked nearby.

The recruit had gotten out of his vehicle and started throwing Molotov cocktails. The homemade incendiary devices landed in the street and a dirt lot, near several large fuel tanks adjacent to McCarran International Airport property and the Oasis apartment complex at 5316 Danville Lane.

The Clark County Fire Department arrived to put out brush fires ignited by the Molotov cocktails but retreated after the recruit pointed a handgun at them, authorities said.

"He came loaded for bear, it seems," said Scott Allison, spokesman for the Clark County Fire Department. "Our firefighters don't usually have guns pointed at them."

A resident of the Oasis apartments, Frank Cardone, also saw part of the gunbattle between police and the recruit. From his second-story balcony, Cardone watched as the gunman -- described by witnesses as a heavyset man possibly in his early 30s -- ran in front of his apartment. The gunman then began indiscriminately firing, Cardone said.

"I thought it was a game," said Cardone, 87, a retired police officer from North Bergen, N.J.

Cardone knew it wasn't a game, however, when at least a dozen police officers converged on the property in front of his apartment.

"I said, 'Who the hell is watching the city?' There were 50 million police cars out here," he said.

Gillespie said two bicycle officers arrived first. After the recruit opened fire on them, one of the bike officers returned fire.

Police found two handguns in the recruit's possession, Gillespie said.

Although the shooting was still under investigation, Gillespie said the officers appeared to have acted appropriately in shooting the recruit. But the fact that the shooter was a police recruit probably would weigh on the officers, Gillespie said.

"It's a difficult situation out here just because an officer-involved shooting itself is very traumatic," he said. "And when they find out after the fact that it's somebody that's currently in our academy, I'm sure it adds more to the emotional side of what took place."

Las Vegas police spokesman Bill Cassell said the department examines recruits' backgrounds and puts them through physical and psychological tests. The details of those tests weren't available Saturday.

"We go through very extensive background checks and a screening process to ensure suitability for police work," he said.
 
I drive by that lot every day to and fro work.

Somebody wigged out that's for sure. I really wonder if they'll ever find out why and release that knowledge. The news showed bullet strikes all over the apts in the background. Never said from whence they came; Good guys shots or wacked out future wanna-be good guy now DRT's shots... (now that's a comforting thought and one I'm sure Metro will do their darndest to downplay).
 
That's a really good question Steve. I sure hope not, cause if he did and passed... well, that'd be a pretty bad thing, right? He had to know that his actions would bring a reaction and since he brought not just one, but two handguns with him, I'd say he knew it was time for him to check out of the program we call life.
LV Metro does not fool around one iota. This happened just behind the Tropicana Hotel, more or less across the stript from Mandalay Bay/Luxor (about half a stones throw east) at the west edge of McCarran.
It does not behoove one to monkey around near or on the strip or at the airport where the big dollars are to be found. Or anywhere else for that matter.
There's a LV Metro substation almost immediately adjacent (south) of Mandalay Bay. Response time was "RIGHT NOW!" with the bicycle Cops showing up after the call from the prestationed EMT crew.
 
"We go through very extensive background checks and a screening process to ensure suitability..."

So does NASA.

Jim
 
Man, I wonder what his B-Pad test results looked like.

instructor:"Nice shot on the BG. However, you also shot the old lady, three kids and their dog."

recruit:"Cool. Did I pass?"

:eek:
 
Sounds like one department that should have it's psych evaluators re-evaluated...:rolleyes:... but they really have me swinging with the (handgun) bullet that managed to make "a fist-size hole in a coffee table". Would someone please tell me what the heck material that table was made of ???: :scrutiny:
 
This guy may have easily passed a psyche eval. Psyche evals are good at
catching people who have real mental illness. They are not so good at weeding out antisocial tendencies. Just like any other tests psyche evals can be "studied" for, you can read up on what the tests look for and plan answers ahead of time. It takes in depth evaluation over more than one exam to be fairly certain you catch an unstable person.

And he may have been quite stable mentally. He may have made a conscious choice about his action. We may never know why he did this but a close look at his life as a kid may give clues. Also a tox screen may show a cause also. Life is strange and in Vegas it can be quite surrealistic at times.
 
i didnt hear ANYTHING about this. and a friend of mine was denied a spot in the recruit program. if he had made it in he would have been in the same lot as that guy.
 
Alonzo? It all makes sense now:

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Bureaucracies replace common sense evaluations with cover your butt procedures like psych evals, polygraphs, etc. Put up big hurdles that eliminate a lot of good applicants while bad ones can still get through. If this guy was set for the Academy, he already passed a background check, polygraph and psych eval.
 
Sad Case for Metro

This is a sad case for the recruit's family, neighbors and those nearby whose residences took hits. And yes, for Las Vegas Metro, which seems to pride itself on quality police officers.
 
Gang member trying to join the force?
If so, maybe he thought the LV Metro Police have an initiation dare like his gang does.

Wonder if he took his psych eval yet!!
If he did, I think they should add a new question…

This is a sad case for the recruit's family, neighbors and those nearby whose residences took hits. And yes, for Las Vegas Metro,...
You know the difference between comedy and tragedy? Tragedy is when it happens to you.
 
he would have done the psych eval. my friend went thru all of that back in nov... and like i said, was turned down. ex marine with 2 tours in iraq under his belt. obviously not LVMPD material
 
my friend went thru all of that back in nov... and like i said, was turned down. ex marine with 2 tours in iraq under his belt. obviously not LVMPD material
If he's a good guy (I'm sure he is) he needs to keep trying over, and over, and over again (if he want's the job that bad...how many good people just move on?). The system is good at spitting out good people for stumbling over the bureaucratic hurdles. One agency, you may get through "hurdle A", then get tripped up on "C". The next agency..."B" gets you, "A" and "C" were fine. Good canditates who get in on the first or 2nd try wouldn't understand and can assume if you don't get in, you are messed up.

If you fail the same thing over and over...it might be you...if different steps each time...it's the system. Bad people slip through no matter what...polygraphs were admitted to Aldrich Ames regularly and he sold secrets to the Soviets for 30 years.....

Bureaucracies want a procedure or machine to tell them a candidate is good, thus covering everyone's butt. The truth is bad people get in no matter what, but procedures do not discriminate. Many good people get spit out to hopefully avoid some bad ones. Obviously, background checks and psych evals and testing/interviews are necessary. The problem is the way they are administered...rigid adherence to protocol, no human judgment. You cede control in hiring decisions to the procedure and hope for the best.
 
I came upon your forum because I was trying to gather information on the incident that occurred on Fri (OIS).

Let first introduce myself. I have been in law enforcement for over twenty years. I have worked full time for a law enforcement agency in California for twenty years.

I am a POST certified weapons instructor and for several years a training officer. With this in mind, I would like to inform the group that I was a good friend to individual who committed "Suicide by cop" on Friday.

I worked with Ivan for nearly seven years and can assure he was no Alonzo from "Training Day" the movie. I can assure you he was not on PCP either. He was not a gang member NOR an anarchist. We wore the same uniform, worked and laughed together for years.

I am in no way defending what Ivan did, that was not the Ivan I knew. He left our department in January. He had talked about going to the Arizona Dept. of Safety.

I dont know what happened to Ivan, when I heard what happened it knocked the wind out of me. This is an emotional time for me, I took the comments I read personal, I realize most of you have no information, so you throw out these comments because you dont know the facts.

I know this is not the best way to start off here and for that I am sorry, being the noob here. I just had say my peace. Thanks
 
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