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I've often thought .357 mag. had a lot going for it as it can be chambered in revolvers and carbines, with respectable ballistics from both (emphasis carbine, not rifle). And I've often thought that a Ruger Camp Carbine style tube mag. autoloader in .357 would hit a sweet spot out there.
So I've been wondering why:
1. There aren't detachable box mag. carbines out there that shoot a more "potent" hand gun round, that could be chambered in a auto-loading pistols (with a more reasonable grip length).
2. There are so few auto-loading hand guns out there that shoot a good carbine round. (The only ones I can think of are the Coonan in .357 mag. and the Auto Mag III in .30 carbine)
Granted, I may be "small minded" in my thinking, but from my perspective AR pistols aren't really pistols and 9mm luger and .45 acp carbines don't cross the "respectable ballistics" threshold.
Rimmed cartridges seem problematic for reliable feeding from a detachable box mag.
And 33 mm appears to be too long for a reasonable grip frame length on an auto-feeding pistol.
I'll nominate 9x23 Win. for consideration... but have never seen a carbine chambered for it.
Curious to hear other's thoughts on the topic.
So I've been wondering why:
1. There aren't detachable box mag. carbines out there that shoot a more "potent" hand gun round, that could be chambered in a auto-loading pistols (with a more reasonable grip length).
2. There are so few auto-loading hand guns out there that shoot a good carbine round. (The only ones I can think of are the Coonan in .357 mag. and the Auto Mag III in .30 carbine)
Granted, I may be "small minded" in my thinking, but from my perspective AR pistols aren't really pistols and 9mm luger and .45 acp carbines don't cross the "respectable ballistics" threshold.
Rimmed cartridges seem problematic for reliable feeding from a detachable box mag.
And 33 mm appears to be too long for a reasonable grip frame length on an auto-feeding pistol.
I'll nominate 9x23 Win. for consideration... but have never seen a carbine chambered for it.
Curious to hear other's thoughts on the topic.
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