Proposed $4MM Anti-Gun Boondoggle Will Dig NJ Even Deeper.

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Submitted to press release services. Two day lead time means that this will not appear until Wednesday. Enjoy.

Proposed Anti-Gun Boondoggle Will Dig NJ Even Deeper.

$4MM sought for more feel-good programs threaten to whack NJ taxpayers again.

Dateline: Washington Twp. NJ, March 14 2006

In yet another deplorable example of gross fiscal mismanagement and feel-good legislation, Herb Conway (D - Delanco) has proposed four million dollars be spent on "outreach" to combat "gun violence" in the inner city areas of our state.

Sure. Just what New Jersey taxpayers need. Another $4 Million boondoggle when just about every department and budget is in the red. This kind of absurdity is exactly how we got to be here in the first place – constant spending, no belt-tightening and legislative lemmings willing to “go along to get along” so they don’t jeopardize their own pet patronage projects all in a calculated effort to buy their re-election.

But the absurdity doesn't stop there. Of particular note is the customary thinly veiled extremist rhetoric that portrays firearms as the problem.

Why would an inner city urban youth want to buck the peer pressure, when all he sees on TV are rap videos extolling the virtues of being a "gangstah", the ill gotten gains arising from crime in the form of Lil Kim's countdown to jail being turned into a melodrama, and the icing on the cake - this year's Academy Award winning song imploring us to sympathize with the difficult lifestyle of being a pimp?

Here's a hint, Herb. It’s not the guns, stupid. The culture of violence resulting from an inability to value your neighbor's person and property exacerbated by today's pop culture that denigrates good old-fashioned hard work and education is the problem.

We at the New Jersey Coalition for Self Defense believe the way out, is the way in. Lessons of personal responsibility are always more effectively taught through the doing of it. A firearms safety and youth marksmanship program would engender these young people with some self-esteem, personal responsibility, accountability to others, and a sense of achievement.

And here's the best thing of all... we'd do it for a heck of a lot less than $4 million.

If New Jersey legislators are truly serious about this issue, and sincerely wish to decrease the spread of gang crime, then our citizens should have the same rights to carry sidearms for our self defense just as they can in 39 other states that don't victimize law abiding taxpayers – in more ways than one. Gang members don't fear the police, they fear an armed citizen who has the capacity and determination to defend himself, and that's the surest way to redact violent crime.

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The NJ Coalition for Self Defense is a volunteer citizen's not-for-profit organization, whose purpose is to effect positive change to New Jersey's current public policy of discouraging, penalizing, and even criminalizing, legitimate and necessary acts and methods of self defense. For more information on the NJCSD, visit us on the web at http://www.njcsd.org
 
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Me thinks NJ needs to be dragged into the 21st century. The NJCSD may just do that!
 
A firearms safety and youth marksmanship program would engender these young people with some self-esteem, personal responsibility, accountability to others, and a sense of achievement.

Somebody needs to exercise a dictionary: "engender" is altogether the wrong verb.
 
"Engender'' - verb transitive - ''to give rise to"

If text became -"A firearms safety and youth marksmanship program would engender young people with some self-esteem, personal responsibility, accountability to others, and a sense of achievement." It would be OK.

Endow for example would be better in the given context.

As for the proposed $4 mil profligacy - as ever, blame the gun. Anti's seem to lap that up :mad:
 
Sounds about like corrupt government. They get sued for $3 million in a case likely to favor the plaintiff, and they turn around and immediately ask for $4 million from the taxpayers.

Heh.
 
Ok, so you guys are hired. I'll be sure to run our next press release by you before we put it out. In the meantime, at least we're trying to do something rather than sitting around watching it happen.
 
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Don't get too mad at 'em, Rovert. Grammar flames are just background noise for the Internet. At least no one is (yet) indulging in the usual boring round of PRNJ bashing.
True 'nuff. Interesting that out of 450 some-odd words, the focus is on one word as an element of style, rather than on the overarching substance and gravity of the ideas posited.

No wonder we gun owners rarely get things done.
 
Well I for one (and probably many more here) think it is a great press release. Thank you for posting it here. It gets the intended message across. And besides, most of us New Jerseians ain't smart enough to notice such a small grammer snafu innyhow. We are in an uphill battle in NJ and I am in it till the end...no matter the outcome. Go NJCSD!!!!:)
 
One would think that those who enjoy the freedoms they take for granted in thier respective states would lend some moral support to those of us in New Jersey who are more restricted in our rights.

Don't think for a minute, what is happening in NJ can't happen in your state. New Jersey is the "proving" ground for those who want to change our very way of life.

The NJCSD is doing battle in the trenches and all some are worried about is the appropriate use of a word. Lets focus on what really matters and have at it!

A thumbs up for the NJCSD!

We must all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately.
--Benjamin Franklin, At the signing of the Declaration of Independence, July 4, 1776.
 
Demeroma, please rest assured that New Jersey residents are in our thoughts and prayers as we fight the good fight in our respective home states, even as we witness the outright rescinding of Constitutional rights in NJ.

"New Jersey is the 'proving' ground for those who want to change our very way of life." I must note that Californians state the same phrase during times such as these. I, however, cannot accept this as anything more than emotional rhetoric. To me, NJ and CA haven't proved anything more than how much power the people are willing to allow the Govt to seize.

I pray that NJ and CA are swiftly introduced to true Patriots who cannot stand this any longer.

Rovert: You appear to be fighting the good fight. Keep up the good work.
 
I must note that Californians state the same phrase during times such as these. I, however, cannot accept this as anything more than emotional rhetoric. To me, NJ and CA haven't proved anything more than how much power the people are willing to allow the Govt to seize.
Were you a resident of NJ you'd have a more clear understanding of the fact that it's not a matter of what we "allow", it's a matter of what's usurped.

The problem is how the system here in NJ is jerry-rigged to preclude any sort of effective intervention. Forget about what you learned on "Schoolhouse Rock" about how laws are passed in normal places. Virtually everything is run on patronage and "pay-to-play". Both judges and state police chiefs are political appointees, which causes the anti-gun ideology to trickle down to the municipality level.

Firearms regulations are slipped through administratively in the dark of night without any hearings, and when there are, because they're "stealthed", we don't have an opportunity to shift public opinion because we're reacting, rather than getting out in front. And public opinion won't change because anything even remotely pro-gun in the press is squashed since they're all on the payroll of the politicos.

Finally, the upper and lower houses of our legislature are dominated by left-wing idealogues (Democrats) who are on a mission to steal our liberty, and the Republicans in this state are driving the getaway car.

So, respectfully, your statement about "emotional rhetoric" is insulting to those of us who have been working our asses off, and amounts to ignorance on your part of exactly how bad things are and exactly how corrupt the system is here.
 
Now their stomping on our 1st Amendment Rights.....all my postings of the press release on NJ.com web-site have been deleted. This State is insane and out of control:banghead:
 
Ambush, I totally understand where you're coming from, but in the case of NJ.COM, it's not a 1st Amendment issue. The 1A pertains to GOVERNMENT intervention in free speech, but a PRIVATE venue such as a newspaper or bulletin board has absolute editorial control and right to set the code of conduct for their community as they see fit.

So, translated, we at the NJCSD would have every right to delete any anti-gun posts in our forum if it doesn't meet with our approval.

However, being the intellectually honest people we are, and the ones who hold the moral, intellectual and historical high ground on the issue, we don't need to delete posts. We just debate the issue and the liberals fall away and crumble to dust when they realize their views just don't hold water and expose them for what they are. :D
 
Oh, well I'm sure you're right, and they are, if not directly then indirectly. That's what I mean when I talk about our organization having to pay for airtime that the anti-gun idjits get for free.
 
If he were alive today, George Washington would not bother crossing the Delaware to liberate Trenton, Nazi Jersey. Nazi Jersey is as much a colony of the UK as it is a haven for anti-RKBA thugs.

BaronDumas4, I know the way American history is taught in certain places south of the Mason Dixon line, is some what distorted. However, please try to stop spreading your poison in threads such as these.

Here's a historical fact: New Jersians liberated New Jersey. Not George Washington. So Mr. Dumas, try to stop using threads such as these to continue your long lost civil war. If you can't get passed it, and have nothing constructive to say, then just keep quiet.

BTW, Part of Cape May, New Jersey is south of the Mason Dixon line. Is that enough to consider us Brothers?
 
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MinMAN, please cite your source for the following comment: "BaronDumas4, I know the way American history is taught in certain places south of the Mason Dixon line, is some what distorted."

I strongly disagree, thus my reason for calling upon your sources.
 
MinMAN, please cite your source for the following comment: "BaronDumas4, I know the way American history is taught in certain places south of the Mason Dixon line, is some what distorted."

I strongly disagree, thus my reason for calling upon your sources.

You can start with some of the THR members post.
 
MinMan

I am a former NJ resident (for about 40 years) who now lives in Texas. While I'm not a Revolutionary War scholar, I do know a couple things about the war in NJ:

1) There were a bunch of battles there in which the Continental Army took part - Trenton, several around Princeton and Monmouth, to name a few. NJ was a major battleground because of its location between NYC and Philadelphia, so the Continentals got involved quite a lot. It is rather doubtful that the NJ militia could've tossed out the Limeys all by themselves.

2) NJ was a hotbed for Loyalists.

I point this out to show that NJ, despite being my homestate and your current home, wasn't exactly leading the charge or the efforts to get rid of the Brits. Facts are facts.

As for the topic in this thread, this is definitely a case of SSDD. I didn't leave NJ because of guns, but I can assure you that the whole gun issue wasn't on the "reasons to stay in NJ" list. The government there is corrupt on every level, and the general theme for all government in the state is "we know what's best for you ignorant peasants, whom we will not allow to have guns if we can help it. Now pay your taxes and shut up." For crying out loud, you can't even pump your own gas - what, New Jerseyans are too stupid to do what people in 48 other states can do (Hawaii is the other uber-paternalistic state)?

I am not happy to write these words about the place I grew up, but again, facts are facts. The same anti-gun, pro-government liberals that screwed up NYC have moved to NJ and have proceeded to screw it up just about as badly. Regrettably, I would never recommend that anyone move to NJ, not unless they were in NYC.
 
I'm a man of few words. So, here they are. Stay in Texas, and be sure to spread your rotten view of our state to those like you, and just stay the hell out. Your gone? then be gone!:fire:

I learned very young, that the ones who do the most talking, take the least action.

Here's a link to a thread I started that had next to no responses.:confused:

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=189083
 
BaronDumas4, I know the way American history is taught in certain places south of the Mason Dixon line, is some what distorted. However, please try to stop spreading your poison in threads such as these.

Here's a historical fact: New Jersians liberated New Jersey. Not George Washington. So Mr. Dumas, try to stop using threads such as these to continue your long lost civil war. If you can't get passed it, and have nothing constructive to say, then just keep quiet.

BTW, Part of Cape May, New Jersey is south of the Mason Dixon line. Is that enough to consider us Brothers?

My comments were directed at the article that began this thread. To add color to my comment, I used speculative history as a rhetorical device in reaction to the so-called "Boondoggle" thrown at Jerseyites. Use of the perjorative, "Nazi Jersey," is intended to emphasize the state of oppression Jerseyites are confronted with everyday, not only from gang members but also from law enforcement who must enforce the state's oppressive gun laws.
 
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