Protestors march against more secure U.S. border

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The time to bloodlessly stop the Aztlan Intifada is NOW. Fax this to the Republican National Committee, the White House, and your Republican politicians immediately.
 
Sure Biker... Not that your source is really worth addressing, but since you're lonely, here's all anyone rational would need know about your "unbiased" source....

Steve Sailer (email him) is founder of the Human Biodiversity Institute and movie critic for The American Conservative. His website www.iSteve.com features his daily blog.
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Sounds like quite the authority on immigration in Southern Mexico to me. Who could question a man with such credentials and no agenda? :eek:
 
by jlseagull
I don't feel I'm qualified to speak for any Mexicans regarding immigration from South America, as I don't live in Mexico, let alone near it's southern border.
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I suggested a source of information since you claimed to be lacking in knowledge.
by jlseagull
You even had the sources to read, and still pulled a conclusion from your ass. :confused:
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The only conclusion I drew (and it was plainly supported) was that Mexican employers use the same rationalizations for hiring illegal immigrants, and practice the same types of mistreatment of illegals, as do American employers.

BTW, you don't score extra points in a discussion by being rude.
 
Hokay, care to address the points he makes and the sources he provides?
I've provided proof that Mexico guards its borders much more strenuously than the US which proves a blatant hypocrisy.
Biker
 
GC -

You are right. I was too harsh on your post. You did do a good job at staying relatively neutral, and stating your point. I apologize.
 
Hokay, care to address the points he makes and the sources he provides?
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Sure. The article you link to is a blogist filtering of a NeoCon rag (Washington Times) article from August 2001. It is an attempt to show the planning for a big time crackdown (Plan Sur) Mexico is implementing on its southern border, while hypocritically condoning border crossings into the US. He then fantasizes about how smart he is and then prattles some suggestiojns for Fox in usual bloggist manner.

However, the actual implementation of "Plan Sur" border enforcement program took effect after Mexico was already deporting 100,000 immigrants per 6 months, as per your own source. Can't find any sources that said Mexico has significantly increased its southern deportations of illegals over 200,000 a year. In fact, if you look at the Economist statistic, they actually _decreased_ the number of deportations in the second half of 2001, during the implementation of "Plan Sur".

I can't be there to walk you through every article you read. I hope youll pick up some of the points of critical reading and source selection in research, but somehow I doubt it.

Much ado about nothing.... :rolleyes:
 
Seagull...
You deny that Mexico's border policies are stricter than our's as evidenced by the article?


Biker
 
Mexico's southern border is well guarded. Go figure...
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You deny that Mexico's border policies are stricter than our's as evidenced by the article?
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How many times are you going to change your point when you lose an argument? :confused:

Your point was that Mexico's border was well guarded. As evidence, you cite a blog talking about an article talking about a program that is going to be super tough on illegal immigrants crossing the Southern border of Mexico, as well as your "pen pals".

The Economist says it was a failure. GC's links say it was a failure. There's a border officer saying he thinks there's more coming through than before in that few words. Biker also now realizes it was a failure.

So now you try to switch your argument. You didn't really mean to say that the Southern border of Mexico was well guarded, you just meant to say that mexico a stricter policy than the US, but somehow mistyped it? :rolleyes:

You've got more flip-flops than Kerry.
I'm waiting to hear about how you were once a NAFTA ambassador to Mexico. ;)
 
Nope. My argument never changed, just my approach to your BS. The point isn't whether or not the policy is a failure, just that Mex has a hypocritical border policy.
Oh, and their borders are guarded more strictly than ours which I proved.

Biker
 
You don't know what you're proving cause it's constantly changing, but you're sure you've proved it.

Riiiiiiiiiiighhhhht. :rolleyes:
 
Forget about Mexico's southern border...
Migration News (University of California at Davis)
Some 10,000 people land in Mexico City's airport every day, and they include non-Mexicans being smuggled to the US. In the first seven months of 2004, Mexico City airport authorities detained 112,000 illegal migrants, compared with 150,000 in all of 2003. Most are from Central and South America, but there are also Chinese and Eastern Europeans who say that it is cheaper to get into the US via Mexico than to be smuggled directly to the US.
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seagull, if you are a non-hispanic, even if you are married to one, you will not fit the aztlan picture......
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TX... Out of all the worries you could have in the world, out of all the business dreams, personal goals, and/or SHTF survival plans you could be spending your time being concerned with, the this is really what keeps you up at night?
 
Lordy! I go 1,400 miles in two days, and check email to find a half-dozen gripes about this thread.

The attacks are low road and the language is atrocious. Grammaw ain't pleased.

So y'all check your sources, marshall your arguments, take some Valium, and start over.

Art
 
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