PT22 or PT25?

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I am not aiming to start the .22LR vs .25 ACP all over again, but which is the best in the Beretta or Taurus semi's?
Presently I own a Taurus PT22 (.22LR), but recent threads have made me wonder, should I get a Taurus PT25?
I don't want to spend $300+ to find out.
Please feel free to express your opinion.
 
Get the Beretta Way better than the Taurus . If you can find a older model 20 its smaller than the new ones .Kind of scarce . I have 2 of the old 950 and a 20 all in 25auto. Way better pistols than my Taurus was. Even my model 21 which I think to big is a lot better than the Taurus
 
The 25 ACP is more reliable as a centerfire cartridge. 22's can be problematic because of quality control. I carry both small 25s and 22's at times. If I'm carrying a 22 I have it loaded with CCI Mini Mags. The best 22 ammo there is IMO. I don't carry hollowpoints in 22 or 25 as I feel these rounds need the penetration afforded by a fmj or round nose. 22 has the advantage of being less expensive for practice even if you use CCI.

I would rate both calibers equal as far as a SD cartridge in a short barrel handgun. If using one as a SD cartridge you can't rely on a double tap to stop the BG. Keep shooting until the threat stops. That really goes for any confrontation but more so with a 22 or 25.

If your Taurus 22 is reliable I wouldn't say you need to buy a 25.
 
.25 +
  • more oomph (disregarding .22LR velocity numbers -- they're done using rifles)
  • more reliable ignition, being centerfire
  • runs cleaner, for the most part

.25 -
  • expensive
  • less variety of selection
  • hard to find (although .22LR can be too, these days)

.22 +
  • cheaper
  • more variety of selection
  • easier to find (if the world ever goes back to normal)

.22 -
  • less oomph
  • less reliable ignition
  • runs dirtier
  • sometimes hard to find (more subject to panic-buying)
 
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I would love to have all the mini Berettas back that I had over the years (numerous Model 950s, Model 20, and Model 21). If I had to chose between the .22 or the .25 I would probably go with the .25.
 
I agree with Tallball.


Price a box of .25 ACP nowadays. May very well make the decision for you.
 
I have a PT-22 from 1998, and a PT-25 from 1996.

Here is what I notice in the differences between them:

No variable in reliability. I'm not dumb enough to try to run cheap ammo in a heavily-sprung rimfire pocket-pistol and then complain the gun is a POS when it chokes on it. These little guns need ammo with some guts in rimfire, so MiniMags is what I stoke the PT-22 with. I've fired a few hundred through the Taurus and have had no failures. With Federal AutoMatch, during a 100-round session, I had one incident in which the returning slide missed the next round in the magazine and closed on an empty chamber.

My PT-25 has only seen (from me) about 150 rounds, about half WWB and the other half a "blue-boxed" brand I can't recall right now. No failures.

The .22 pistol seems to produce more noise and flash than the .25 does. I assume this is because the .25 ammo is loaded with a faster-burning powder intended to be mostly burned before the bullet leaves the short barrel. By contrast, the LR ammo, designed for barrels in excess of ten inches in length, uses a slower-burner to keep it "hot" while the bullet makes that longer trip. In the shorter barrel, the powder is still well-lit and burning as the bullet makes its exit.

Both shoot to where I want them to, inside of ten yards, easy to keep them within an area the size of my fist if I really try hard.

Personally, I didn't notice a difference in trigger feel, though I suspect the rimfire gun might have a heavier trigger for the hammer to smash that thick rim.

The PT-25 holds nine rounds in its magazine, one more than its rimfire counterpart.

So, choosing one as a defensive piece gives you the following to ponder:

Ammo design to gun edge: PT-25.

Ammo performance edge: PT-25, but barely.

Ammo capacity edge: PT-25.

Cost of practice (a necessity!) edge: PT-22.

In my opinion, there is not enough of an edge to the PT-25 for you to add one to the .22 unless you are trading the .22 out for it. Even then, I'd feel just as well served with the .22 in my hands as the .25. If your .22 runs well with the ammo you use in it, buying one in .25 is pretty much gonna be redundant. If your .22 chokes just enough to give you pause, then that one would make a good trainer and the .25 your "actual gun."

I got my .22 in 2012, and my .25 in 2015. The latter was simply on a whim (actually, both were.) Each cost me around $160, if I remember correctly.

I enjoy them both.

EDIT: Gun Master, I see in another thread you say that, when you do carry the PT22 (which isn't often), it's usually backed by a Bauer .25 (incidentally, another little gun I enjoy owning.) If that's the case, I certainly see no reason to go get a PT-25, unless you just want one.

To me, there are only two possible reasons for buying a specific gun:

1) I don't have one; one would be cool.

2) I already have one; another one would be cool.
 
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I am not aiming to start the .22LR vs .25 ACP all over again, but which is the best in the Beretta or Taurus semi's?
Presently I own a Taurus PT22 (.22LR), but recent threads have made me wonder, should I get a Taurus PT25?
I don't want to spend $300+ to find out.
Please feel free to express your opinion.

What kind of failure rate (failures to feed or fire) are you experiencing with auto-friendly .22 LR ammunition, such as CCI Mini-Mag?

There are brands and styles of .22 ammo that are positively poison to reliable use in an autoloader, but you probably know which ones those are.

If what you are doing is working, keep doing it.

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Edit: If your question is about effectiveness of either round, both are unquestionably lousy.
 
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.22 or .25 ?

Thank you Med Wheeler. You pretty much summed it up.

For others, CCI MiniMags are good for .22, but how do you find them, and buy them readily?
 
^^ I find them every now and then at Bass Pro Shops, frequently in the 300-count "Choot 'em!" boxes.

I haven't searched online for them in several months because I'm "caught up" and because I find them at BPS, so I can't comment on how difficult they are to get on the web.
 
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