PTR GI VS FAL Imbel
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Driftertank
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Never heard anything about FAL's jamming in sand/dust any more than anything else. In fact i've never really heard of a properly built and properly adjusted FAL having an issue under ANY reasonable condition due to any fault of the rifle itself. They're generally considered possibly the most reliable of the .308 MBR's. Unless they're poorly built...
This Imbel FAL you mention, where was it built, and by whom? If it's a century build, make sure someone who knows FAL's checks it out before you buy.
As for the PTR, most here know by now i'm a bit of a PTR fanboy. I love mine, but they have their quirks and if you buy without knowing them beforehand, you may find youself rather unhappy with it.
This Imbel FAL you mention, where was it built, and by whom? If it's a century build, make sure someone who knows FAL's checks it out before you buy.
As for the PTR, most here know by now i'm a bit of a PTR fanboy. I love mine, but they have their quirks and if you buy without knowing them beforehand, you may find youself rather unhappy with it.
The Brits had issues with sand clogging up the SLR which is why they added the sand cuts to the sides of the bolt carrier. I have run my FAL in some very, very dusty conditions with no issues. And I do not have a sand cut carrier. Between the two I'd take the FAL hands down any day of the week.
LegalAlien
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Carried and shot a South African R1 (FAL clone) in the Namib desert for 6 months and never, ever had any sand issues.
As an afterthought - do you plan to take the FAL or PTR you are thinking about into any sandy/dusty areas?
If not, then why be concerned about any rumoured sand jamming issues . . . . . just saying
As an afterthought - do you plan to take the FAL or PTR you are thinking about into any sandy/dusty areas?
If not, then why be concerned about any rumoured sand jamming issues . . . . . just saying
AmEngRifles
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Both are good choices. Check your ancillary items to see what you might like to add on. Mags, and their prices, scope mounts, or bipods. They all help contribute to your use and comfort.
I have always felt from an ergonomic standpoint, the FAL is superior. Bit more of a finely crafted arm rather than a big stick. The G3 works, works reliably, but has always felt like a big clunky hunk of a weapon to me. Firing and recoil impulse don't seem significantly different to me, but operation of the G3 is just so much more manhandling than the beautiful and sleek FAL. In a head to head, I do think the delayed recoil system of the G3 has less to go wrong, but a properly build FAL should gives years of trouble free service as long as you do your part.
Suggestion. Look at the Commonwealth pattern rifle, L1A1. The Brits did many nice improvements to the type with superior fire control system upgrades and a sturdy mag upgrade. Small details, but it is in those details that take the FAL one step closure to perfection.
Or get an M1A. LOL
I have always felt from an ergonomic standpoint, the FAL is superior. Bit more of a finely crafted arm rather than a big stick. The G3 works, works reliably, but has always felt like a big clunky hunk of a weapon to me. Firing and recoil impulse don't seem significantly different to me, but operation of the G3 is just so much more manhandling than the beautiful and sleek FAL. In a head to head, I do think the delayed recoil system of the G3 has less to go wrong, but a properly build FAL should gives years of trouble free service as long as you do your part.
Suggestion. Look at the Commonwealth pattern rifle, L1A1. The Brits did many nice improvements to the type with superior fire control system upgrades and a sturdy mag upgrade. Small details, but it is in those details that take the FAL one step closure to perfection.
Or get an M1A. LOL
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If it were me? I would go for the Imbel, as long as its a straight Imbel. Meaning Imbel recevier and parts. If it was put togather by someone that knows what there doing you will have a rifle that will serve you well in years to come. Mags will not be as cheap as G3 mags. But the Fal mags have come down in price a couple of dollars sence I last looked.
The PTR? I sort of want one. There have been issues with using surplus ammo in some of them and then with bullet sealents plugging the groves (I can't think of the correct name for the life of me right now) in the chamber. Some issues with the PTR made bolt/carrier, but replacements are not that bad cost wise. Lots of goodies to put on them if you go this route. Collapsable stock, 22lr conversion kit, training ammo bolt/carryer and ammo (this would be real nice if you could get one and say 10K rounds for it cheap), Surplus scopes and mounts.
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No good can come from this purchas. First its a Fal, then you will have to get the PTR, then maybe a AR 10 or an M1A. Couple of AKs later you will have lots of toys and not money left. Least that how it seem to work with me???
Enjoy
So sort of a tuff call. But I would still lean tward the Fal.
WB
The PTR? I sort of want one. There have been issues with using surplus ammo in some of them and then with bullet sealents plugging the groves (I can't think of the correct name for the life of me right now) in the chamber. Some issues with the PTR made bolt/carrier, but replacements are not that bad cost wise. Lots of goodies to put on them if you go this route. Collapsable stock, 22lr conversion kit, training ammo bolt/carryer and ammo (this would be real nice if you could get one and say 10K rounds for it cheap), Surplus scopes and mounts.
Had to come back and add.
No good can come from this purchas. First its a Fal, then you will have to get the PTR, then maybe a AR 10 or an M1A. Couple of AKs later you will have lots of toys and not money left. Least that how it seem to work with me???
Enjoy
So sort of a tuff call. But I would still lean tward the Fal.
WB
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