Question on guns cut for full moon clips

[ZeppelinM16]

Can you simply just load the rounds into the cylinder of revolvers machined for full moon clips without using the clips?

 

[PT1911]

depends on the gun... typically yes... but it is a pain to unload them. I have a .357 ground for moons and I can shoot with or without them because the moons do not extend to the edge of the cylinder... therefore the bullets have part of the cylinder to rest on and thus do not fall forward too far for the fireing pin to hit the primer...and I can then unload them as you would any other revolver....

that said however, there are some other revolvers... those for rimless cartridges (9, 40, 45...etc) that can be loaded without the moons but require the spent shells to be pushed out one by one from the muzzle end of the cylinder. kind of a pain.

 

[earlthegoat2]

that said however, there are some other revolvers... those for rimless cartridges (9, 40, 45...etc) that can be loaded without the moons but require the spent shells to be pushed out one by one from the muzzle end of the cylinder. kind of a pain.

that and with the Smith and Wesson revolvers firing rimless cartridges these days (625 for instance) the unmooned cartridges will no longer headspace reliably on the mouth of the case so you may not even be able to shoot them without the moonies.

 

[Loanshark]

I'd like to know more about the crescent moon clips, and the new moon clips!!!

Sorry, couldn't resist...

 

[GP100man]

moon clips

ya can load clips that hold 3 rnds or 2 rnds at the time , on a 6 shooter .

 

[StrawHat]

Here is a similar thread.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=473459

It has some answers for you.

 

[jmorris]

Can you simply just load the rounds into the cylinder of revolvers machined for full moon clips without using the clips?

You can but why?

 

[rcmodel]

Because you don't have to fool around with loading & unloading clips.

I used to shoot a lot without clips with my 1917 for relaxed range plinking.

My latest 625-6, and my buddies 625-JM won't work without clips because the chambers are reamed way too deep for the frame mounted firing pin to reach the primers.
And that is a dang shame!

Why did S&W, after building a whole bunch of .45 ACP revolvers since 1917 that were chambered to headspace on the case mouth, screw it up at this late date?

rc

 

[General Geoff]

that and with the Smith and Wesson revolvers firing rimless cartridges these days (625 for instance) the unmooned cartridges will no longer headspace reliably on the mouth of the case so you may not even be able to shoot them without the moonies.

I can't say for sure about new 625s, but the new 610-3s do reliably shoot 10mm without moon clips. I've put about 60 loose rounds of 10mm through mine without moon clips, and every round went bang.

 

[ZeppelinM16]

Jmorriss

Just in case a situation arises that I would need to fire said weapon without using the clips.

 

[justashooter in pa]

my 25-2 in 45 ACP headspaces on the case mouth, so can be fired reliably with or without. it was made in the early 70's, IIRC.

 

[rcmodel]

I believe all the 25's and 625's with the hammer mounted firing pin headspace correctly.

Only the later ones with the firing pin in the frame don't headspace right.

rc

 

[huckster]

I bought a new 325NG three weeks ago. It'll fire without the moonclip.

 

[ZeppelinM16]

Is there any reason you couldn't fire a 45 GAP of the 625 JM or a revolver like it?

 

[22/22mag]

You can use .45 auto rim ammo without having to use moon clips.